There was a guy here where I live, who was an elder, had a slightly shady business deal, explained his way out of it, but because of the "noteriety" was demoted to ms..... he then jumped congs and was re-appointed as an elder in no time flat.
geevee
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Is it possible for an Elder to get back his "priviledges" after being demoted?
by african GB Member infor example, if he was demoted due to one of his children(who are still under him) being df'd or is no longer "exemplary".. agbm.
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What did you look like as a JW?
by highdose ini was going through some old photos today, i found one of myself when i was a devout jw.
it was really shocking!
i'm so thin, my cheeks are hollow, i'm as white as the wall behind me, i'm standing hunched over, and in my eyes you can see real misery.
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Did anyone go out and get tattoos and piercings, radical hairstyles?
I am about the same, but older, bald and greyish white.............. very sad
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Number of memorial partakers given in July 2009 KM
by Mickey mouse infor the uk it was 275 (that they're willing to declare anyway).
i don't know how that compares with last year.. how about in your country?.
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You gotta be able to keep climbing the ladder.... or a bunch of new age type believers..... couldn't give up the old hope of goin to heaven.... couldn't stand to be in "paradise" with the brothers... lots of reasons why the numbers climb.
Why not. Those newer guys on the GB suddenly found themselves annointed didn't they?
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I want to buy my first book about the WT what should I get?
by bohm ini have already read c.o.c.
and im not really interested in more about the doctrines.. i have read about the book "taking back your life", and mr. bohm has been pestering me about reading the book "releasing the bonds" by steven hassan.. which other books would you recommend?.
love, miss bohm.
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The four presidents was one of the final nails in my coffin!
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Are Witnesses really this stupid that they need to be told this?
by kurtbethel ineven after years of study at awake u?.
taken from a yahoo group discussion:.
> on local needs this week, wash hands after using restroom.
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The Truth Of "Serving" As An Elder
by minimus inwho the hell are "the elders"?
being an elder is supposed to be a "privilege".
elders are supposed to be "shepherds" who care for the flock.
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geevee
Hi All,
Yes I was an elder once too... I strived hard for it. I was a bit of a hard playing, drinking young man, as were my other friends. We would go away most weekends and drink ourselves into oblivion, hardly do any door to door, a real token server. At one stage, I had a couple of discussions with two of my friends, and we decided we either had to get in properly or get out. Sdaly we chose to stay, bought into the whole mythology and then tidied up our acts. Got going door to door, answering up, being helpful and so on. In no time I was recommended as a MS.
At the same time I started courting my now wife, we got married and I kept my head down trying to please everyone. We had two children, I accepted posts serving food in the cafeteria at circuit and district assemblies, and tried to generally help run things in that department. What I didn't get was that my wife was having a real struggle. She had to manage the children, while I rubbed shouldres with the local elite! I saw this as her sacrifice, she shouldn't complain about it really, it was for GOD after all.....
Eventually the call came. Rushed to the back of the hall after the CO visit... "Do you know any reason why you shouldn't be appointed as an elder?" What do they expect you to say? This was my hopes and dreams coming true! Years invested in the process. My wife and children invested in my ambition!
Wasn't too long and I got to be on my first judicial committee! WOW the big league! Life and Death in ones hands....
then more and more, in my time as an elder, nearly 12 years I was on every JC bar one. Gutted plenty of people, sentenced them to death! Thankfully since leaving I have been able to apologize to nearly all of them.
Luckily when the time come to leave this madness, my wife and teenaged children were all in favor. They saw the light before I did. We escaped together. So what an absolute waste of time it was.
They say it is abvout serving, not about position. What BS that is [not bible study either!!!]. It is all about looking the goods, model family, family study, helping others, pleasing those men who are higher up the ladder than you. You can never be good enough.
The whole arrangement is based on mock humility. So long as no one sees you bleeding, your wife or children bleeding, so long as you can keep up the pretense, give the talks, look the part, say the right things, don't piss off the wrong people. What a massive juggling act, then some one critisizes you for some supposed misdemeanor, what was it all worth?
I am so glad to have nothing to do with it. Mind control at it's absolute worst. You will never catch the dangling carrot!!! NOt ever!
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Is it alowed to watch / read Harry Potter movies (books) in your area?....
by Albert Einstein inis it alowed to watch / read harry potter movies (books) in your area?.
in my country (eastern europe) it is viewed mostly as "unexemplary" , although many kids have harry potter dvds at home, but nobody talks about it .... at circuit assembly one speaker warned, that "some might be tempted to watch a movie, with a little witch .... (of course it is very dangerous and we must stay away!!!)".
when i started my departure several months ago, i made sure my son has all movies on dvd and i openly talk about it with dubs who visit our home - how nice the movies are - ... nobody so far dared to react.... albert .
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We had a guy taking the watchtower study absolutely decry Harry Potter. This was then backed up by comments from others.
After the study, I asked him whether he had infact seen any Harry Potter movies at all... it was a very strong comment, he hadn't. I said I have and it isn't how he described at all. It was a story written for kids to use their imaginations! Like Enid Blyton's Faraway tree.
I was an elder then too!!!!
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geevee
In the mid seventies, a family that i knew caught an elder peeping through the bathroom window at their 12 year old daughter...... I bet there were red faces all round. They didn't persue it, he had a very lame excuse as to why he was there! One of gods chosen holy spirit appointed!
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Did you loose your faith after leaving the false?
by wtfmidoing innew to this and as a nonbeliever i would like to ask how many people lost their belief in a god after leaving the wts.
what opened your eyes?
what made the light get brighter?
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geevee
After wasting forty years, I am done!
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Question for Any current Elders or recently departed elders
by geevee ini have been asked about a situation in which a former witnesses ladies now ex-husband has been caught exposing himself, and this has gone on for at least 15 years.
he has also exposed himself to some close family members.
the question relates to the wt explaination of "porniea".
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B the exB, Thanks for the input. Open to interpretation, certainly. Spiritual danger.... that's a good line that I will suggest to her. So technical, so much rubbish.
Yes the ex needs much help. He is getting "spiritual" help from the cong.... that's good to know, it is sure to help..... NOT! See a professional, I doubt it.