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  re book :Crisis of conscience

  by winnie in

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  2. friends

  does anyone have a copy of franz's crisis of conscience secondhand or new they would consider selling (in australia) or know where i can get one?.

  thanks.

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  geevee

  www.commentarypress.com
  buy from the man himself
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  Sensational news in my Cong!

  by Zico in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've just found out something that's going to be a massive thing in my congregation when it gets out.

  it all starts with a former jw, who faded away probably about a decade ago, and then moved away, came out as a homosexual a few years ago.

  he was never baptised, and he left so long ago, he never got chased up or disfellowshipped.

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  The original poster also highlights another point, the living of a double life. Don't most dubz lead a triple life? One person at home, another at work and the another at the KH or in dub activities? And then there is the issue of orientation?.............
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  If A > B, and B > C, then A > C

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  if a is greater than b, and b is greater than c, then a is greater than c. .

  so, if god can't lie.

  and the watchtower has a history of bad predictions and flip flops,.

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  geevee

  Hi Guys,
  Done the math, both equations are right, you both go to the top of the class, and your reasoning is that simple, why didn't I see it 20 years ago?
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  'Church members are responsible...', AWAKE!, 8/8/87, pp.10,11

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if your church fails to act, will you?.

  "if, after making an honest investigation, you are less than pleased with what you see, do more than just complain.

  a journalist, while commenting on karl barth's statement that a church is its members, logically concluded: 'church members...are responsible for what the church says and does.

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  geevee

  What a great comment! You have been doing some serious digging by the look of it.
  I suppose the reality is that with any digging into the publications you could find enough "quotes" to fill a whole web site!!
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  Why is it so many Men agree to take on the Position of an Elder?

  by restrangled in

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  2. friends

  i just wonder because with the stresses of earning a living, taking care of immediate family, and getting in little free time that is available, why would anyone want to take on this extra job at no charge, answer to more bosses, and be submited to endless critisizing behind your back for decisions.

  it just seems crazy.. r..

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  Recognition, Approval/Wanting to be well thought of by others....then comes influence...then comes POWER......if you call it that. Very small cogs in very small wheels.
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  Can someone post quotes on Jesus only being mediator for 144000?

  by megsmomma in

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  2. friends

  pleeeeaaaaasssseeee?????

  pretty please????.

  i tried to get the cd-rom download, but it didn't work for me....any tips?.

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  geevee

  I showed this to my brother. He read the QFR. First he thought I had flipped my lid when I said that Jesus wasnt our mediator. After the QFR, he looked up and said, well that;s it then, he's not our mediator, full blind acceptance, no questions asked.
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  circuit overseer demands elders destroy my records

  by Tyrone van leyen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  something very unusual happened the other day.

  after 20 years of being treated like satan, my mother spoke with the visiting co. and told him my story.

  he was disgusted with the elders who did this to me..... according to my mother he was furious.

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  Well, this sounds interesting enough. What are the records you are referring to? Are they records of judicial hearings? Publisher record cards?
  Congregations keep general letters etc on file for 7 years, they are supposed to keep 8 years of publisher record cards. And when the judicial matters are resolved thay may be inclined to keep the sealed up for 7 years too, although you would think that if the matter has been heard and finalized they could destroy it there and then...but oh no, that doesnt happen.
  When i was secretary, i went through the judicial file twice, and cleaned out heaps of stuff on people. Stuff that should have been long forgotten.
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  Supplement letter to Witchtower Babble study next Sunday 17th

  by hamsterbait in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the end of today's witchtower, the elder taking it said that next weeks meeting was about appreciating and showing respect for the meetings, and that a letter with "guidelines" - no don't laugh - from the society about this would be read out.. is this why this week was all about being obedient drones and not questioning anything (except for the question "what does the wtbts currently teach on this for me to parrot robotically while maintaining a rictus smile of fake joy?").

  anybody see this letter yet?.

  hb.

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  Pharasees and their rules..............
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  Do you dream you are back in the Borg?

  by uriah in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have depressingly frequent dreams of being back in the borg.

  i am out on the work thinking why am i here i don't do this anymore.

  i am in kingdom halls with my mag - underlined!

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  Sounds crazy, but my wife and I have these same types of dreams too. It feels wrong that you are there, you know you dont want to be there, and thankfully you wake and it was a dream/nightmare.
  Worst is when you find yourself humming a "kingdumb" song...man that freaks me out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Sunday's public talk about 1914 mentioned 586

  by GBSJG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the public talk of last sunday was about 1914, the last days and the prophecy of daniel.. so the speaker explains how we get to the 2520 years and that jerusalem fell in 607. but after that he must have talked about the 586 date for 5 minutes.

  he said that some say the jerusalem fell in 586 instead of 607. but then you would not get to 1914 but 1934 and nothing special happened then.

  then he says that jw have published convincing material about why the date must be 607 without mentioning what that material exactly is (he actually said this several times).

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  Funny, as we were getting ourselves ready to stop being an elder, I had been reading heaps of stuff the gentile times reconsidered and Crisis of conscience as well as the four presidents, when i had to give talks, i used to like to carefully weave a few subtle points into the information.
  Maybe this guy is reading some "apostate" stuff and coming to terms with it, whilst still trying to tow the company line and excuse the wt line of thinking?