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  I am getting disfellowshipped

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

  for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

  for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

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  slimboyfat

  Sorry you are going through this. There seems little way around it now. Even grovelling might not work, which you are probably not prepared to do anyway.

  But I do wonder about one thing. When they confronted you about spending time with DFed people, couldn't you simply have lied? You could have said sorry, and you won't do it again, but then carry on seeing them regardless. In other words, why did you feel that these people deserved the truth? I take the position that no one has a right to my personal information if they will use that information to harm me or others. If they ask a question that crosses that boundary they should not expect a truthful answer. They were wrong to ask the question in the first place, you are not wrong if you give a misleading answer.
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  Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.

  what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

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  slimboyfat

  I think this is something it is difficult for former JWs to get our head around. Mainstream Christian theology doesn't tend to deny the problem of evil or pretend there is an easy answer as JWs do. The honest admission of many Christians is that we don't know how a loving God could allow evil things to happen. There's no point denying the extent of the suffering nor the contradiction of a loving God who allows it. And there is no point pretending we have an answer when all the answers people come up with are flawed, such as the free will argument. If there is an all powerful and loving God then we don't know why he allows evil in the world. Many Christians would agree with atheists about that. So it doesn't necessarily need to be a point of disagreement.
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  Why the meetings are boring and uninspiring

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  each individual may have their own views as to why they feel the meetings are boring and uninspiring.

  in my case i find the midweek meeting so, because of the constant emphasis on pitching watchtower literature.

  its just monotonous and one big yawn.. i watch other christian faiths where they open up a chapter of the bible and discuss it's contents.

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  slimboyfat

  It is true, there is little worship at KH compared with other religions. There's comparatively little real Bible study too compared with some other groups. I can say this from experience.

  The religion with the same or possibly less "worship" I found was Christian Scientists. I guess I should say Unitarians too, but they have moments of "contemplation" which in their way are more worshipful than what you get at KH.
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  The JW Study Bible and The Audio RNWT

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am guessing but based on what i have noted over 2 years of low to inactivity.. everytime a new book is started on the clam a new video pops up giving info on the book (my area btw so i can say all of them are wrong).

  a new audio version is put out of that book at the same time.

  (this is ok. the newer audio version can't hold a candle to the other 4 readers for the 1984 version, but at least it's semi-dramatized).

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  slimboyfat

  I don't follow the post totally, but I think you're onto something.
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  Why the meetings are boring and uninspiring

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  each individual may have their own views as to why they feel the meetings are boring and uninspiring.

  in my case i find the midweek meeting so, because of the constant emphasis on pitching watchtower literature.

  its just monotonous and one big yawn.. i watch other christian faiths where they open up a chapter of the bible and discuss it's contents.

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  slimboyfat

  Maybe they are actually trying to discourage people, reduce attendances, and sell Kingdo Halls.
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  Wait one minute here!!! Did the GB PURPOSEFULLY launch a D.O.S. attack on Russia? (aka the letter writting campaign)

  by GTSfromSY in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.

  a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.

  he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.

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  slimboyfat

  At the very least I think it's fair to say that Watchtower has not acted in a way that will Improve relations with the Russian state. Which shows a level of disregard for those JWs living in the country.
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  Were visits to the library an important part of your childhood?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, fellow bibliophiles:.

  i remember how sad i was, as a little child, when our beloved carnegie library was razed (unsafe, structurally).

  the same tragedy occurred when we moved to a new town and that similar architectural treasure was demolished to put up a new and gleaming building of steel and glass.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes very much so. I read every book about Native Americans I could find at my local library. This meant persuading the librarians to allow me to use the adult section because they had a wider selection when I was technically too young to qualify. In the end they ordered more books on the subject for my benefit.
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  Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.

  what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

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  slimboyfat

  In my opinion yes, sometimes it can be wrong not to act. If you see someone in trouble and choose not to help you are morally as well as sometimes legally culpable. Is there a further purpose to the question?
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  Watchtower and the Robert F Kennedy assasination

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  only stumbled upon this letter today:.

  http://jw-wayback.org/jw-wb/english/letters/to%20congregations/1916-2006/1968-07-09%20to%20all%20congregations%20in%20the%20usa%20(jw%20involved%20in%20assassination%20of%20kennedy).pdf.

  apparently, the father of bobby kennedy's killer was accused of being a jw.

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  slimboyfat

  Very interesting letter. Funny reading the old-time Watchtower belligerent style. It has a certain nostalgic charm.

  Plus, as often with Watchtower, it's more interesting what they don't say than what they do say. They say congregations reported back that no member of the family is a baptised JW. Which is clearly not the same as saying they have no JW connection whatever. They say he was unknown to the Watchtower Society. They don't say he was unknown to the congregations they consulted. I don't think the ambiguity is unintentional. I assume this means his family had some JW connection, possibly as long-time Bible studies and KH attenders. But they don't spell that out.
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  Broadcasting january 2018: annual meeting

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the second month no jw.org tv show, but the annual meeting this time... .

  g..

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  slimboyfat

  They are in serious trouble, no doubt about it.