god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .
this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.
(pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?
What I find ironic about this thread, and the response to it, is that materialist atheists and believers are in the same boat, even if they don’t realise it. They both believe that “humans can get the answers”. Believers get their answers from God and materialists (such Lawrence Krauss) believe science can answer the ultimate question of why there is something rather than nothing.
I would suggest this is rather presumptuous, whether you believe in God or not.
god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .
this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.
(pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?
No, Cofty. But it’s not welcome, so I shouldn’t bother.
god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .
this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.
(pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?
Why put words Into a child’s mouth to make the point? That’s all. You might find it “pathetic” to have faith, but the person whose image you are using may not.
god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .
this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.
(pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?
I find atheists putting words into the mouths of starving children equally distasteful as believers doing the same.
They may be a believer, or maybe not. (In all honesty the vast majority in Africa are believers, that’s just a fact) But whatever their own views are, starving children deserve more dignity.
well done aussie's 60% voted yes.
i really did not think this would happen here there is alot of gay phobia.
i saw men on the streets holding signs "vote no.
Considering now after the vote even Abbott now supports legislation for gay marriage, my guess is it will pass easily.
well done aussie's 60% voted yes.
i really did not think this would happen here there is alot of gay phobia.
i saw men on the streets holding signs "vote no.
Good result. I'm slightly surprised it wasn't higher in favour, but still strong result. Opinion in the United States and elsewhere is rapidly moved no in favour of gay marriage. Even a majority of Evangelicals and Republicans now support. I wonder what WT will do when opposition to gay marriage is as frowned upon as open racism or sexism.
dear brothers and sisters,.
considering the end is so near at hand we thought it important for to reiterate that it's absolutely impossible to prove god's "one true organisation" wrong.
there is nothing on heaven or earth that could ever be shown to be false or incorrect in our entire .
Yes it depends on your background and perspective how persuasive arguments will be.
dear brothers and sisters,.
considering the end is so near at hand we thought it important for to reiterate that it's absolutely impossible to prove god's "one true organisation" wrong.
there is nothing on heaven or earth that could ever be shown to be false or incorrect in our entire .
I don’t think it’s possible to prove JWs are wrong. It’s not possible to prove they’re right either, of course, until Armageddon comes.
november 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: making the best use of our kingdom halls.
Are we sure this video is about KH closures? Not just about keeping the KH tidy and doing the gardening?
so my mum asked me to watch the broadcast and to my astonishment i got through it without smashing my screen haha.. so i let her know what liars they are for saying they would never deliberately distort a quotation.. she is ok for me to give her some printouts of watchtower material where this has in fact happened, contry to what they say.. where should i start and what would be your best link, or way to approach this.
i think this is a good opportunity of waking her up, if she can see that the broadcast has lied to her, she won't be happy.. any advice is you can give is so appreciated.. thanks everyone..
Watchtower misquotes were one of my biggest doubts in WT. Many are borderline and you could argue over. But some are simply outrageous. Here are a couple of the worst in my opinion (taken from jwfacts):
"The Encyclopedia Americana notes that the doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be 'beyond the grasp of human reason." (Trinity brochure p.4)
Full quote:
It is held that although the doctrine is beyond the grasp of human reason, it is, like many of the formulations of physical science, not contrary to reason, and may be apprehended (though it may not be comprehended) by the human mind".
"At this point a reader may begin to understand Dawkins' comment in the preface to his book: "This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction."" (Creation book, p. 39)
Full quote:
"This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction. It is designed to appeal to the imagination. But it is not science fiction: it is science. Cliché or not, "stranger than fiction" expresses exactly how I feel about the truth."
https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php
To get the full force of the misquotes it's probably a good idea to get the person to read the original WT publication in context, let the intent of the quotation set in, and only then reveal the parts that are missed out from the original source.
