Thanks Earnest, yes I think I remember that special pioneers had even higher hours at some point - 160 hours?
slimboyfat
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Stagnation of JWs in Britain
by darkspilver inthis is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
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Stagnation of JWs in Britain
by darkspilver inthis is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
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slimboyfat
I think the fact they’ve reported increasing partaker numbers for around a decade is pretty surprising. And perhaps indicates overall honesty in the numbers. (So far)
But I doubt they’ll keep publishing the numbers much longer.
I used to love poring over the figures in the KM in the late 1990s. I lost interest in going on the ministry around the time they stopped publishing the detailed monthly figures.
If they stop publishing the numbers, will JWs still be motivated to submit reports? If they stop requiring JWs to submit reports will they still go on the ministry? If JWs stop going on the ministry can the religion survive?
Pull at one thread and perhaps the whole unravels.
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Witness Royalty and the last day at the "Towers"
by Lynnie inmy uber elder cousin and his wife got the "privilege" of having one last "toast" of wine at the rooftop garden at the towers in nyc since the jw's are vacating to warwick.
his oldest daughter and son in law are quite high up in the inner circle so they get invited to all the "inner circle" activities.
even though they aren't supposed to toast to anything it was pretty darn close.
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slimboyfat
I wonder if they'll mention the farewell party in the Yearbook.
Oh yeah, no Yearbook.
It's like last orders on the Titanic.
Did they invite the GB to the party?
Or are they too busy heading for the lifeboats?
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Stagnation of JWs in Britain
by darkspilver inthis is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
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slimboyfat
Yes and going back further I think pioneer hours were once 100 hours, and further back still, even more than that, maybe 120 or so.
Elders are allowed to count various activities including giving talks, I believe. I have no idea how longstanding that “allowance” is.
No statistical categories are stable or straightforward.
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Stagnation of JWs in Britain
by darkspilver inthis is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
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slimboyfat
Presumably you mean per year not per month.
And it’s intereeting that hours have gone down since carts began, despite it being “easier”. The amount of time on door to door, when you subtract carts time, must be much less now than previous years and decades.
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Independent Catalonia
by mikeflood init's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".
it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.
since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.
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slimboyfat
How are they not Catalonian? Isn't that for them to decide?
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Stagnation of JWs in Britain
by darkspilver inthis is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
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slimboyfat
Baptisms have fallen sharply in Britain over the last couple of decades.
I seriously doubt there will be another year of positive growth in Britain. But I also doubt whether they'll continue publishing the figures in any case.
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Independent Catalonia
by mikeflood init's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".
it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.
since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.
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slimboyfat
They should have allowed the Catalonian people a democratic vote on their future. What happened to the right to self determination?
If Spain remains a unitary state now, it comes on the back of violence, confiscated ballots, intimidation, political arrests. That is surely unsustainable. If it is maintained by force then it's a darker Europe and a darker world.
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Independent Catalonia
by mikeflood init's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".
it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.
since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.
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slimboyfat
An independent Catalunya would never be admitted to the EU - who would they trade with, Cuba?
It’s a disgrace that Spain has not been expelled or at least censured by the EU for their actions: assaulting voters, confiscating ballots, arresting political opponents. People should think very carefully before giving this a free pass just because they think that the people seeking sovereignty are “idiots”. Who knows when the state may think you’re an “idiot” for seeking some democratic goal.
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Some more background information on Geoffrey Jackson
by Listener inborn in 1955 jacko was baptized at 13 years of age in 1968.his life story, printed in the august 2015 watchtower doesn't state the year in which he married, it's fairly general when talking about it.
hmmm, i wonder why?i've come across a recording of an interview with jacko at a hall dedication in another part of the us in 2009 which provides some further information.he married his first wife, jenny, in 1974 at the grand old age of 19. no wonder they didn't want to print it in the watchtower.unfortunately his first wife, jenny, was diagnosed with cancer in 1999.in 2003 jacko was sent a letter from the gb stating he was being transferred to hq and his wife would be given appropriate work.
he initially didn't know why they were being called to hq as he felt they were being very productive in their fijian paradise, he states that they brought 75 people into the truth.
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slimboyfat
Where is this talk is it online?