I wonder if they'll mention the farewell party in the Yearbook.
Oh yeah, no Yearbook.
It's like last orders on the Titanic.
Did they invite the GB to the party?
Or are they too busy heading for the lifeboats?
my uber elder cousin and his wife got the "privilege" of having one last "toast" of wine at the rooftop garden at the towers in nyc since the jw's are vacating to warwick.
his oldest daughter and son in law are quite high up in the inner circle so they get invited to all the "inner circle" activities.
even though they aren't supposed to toast to anything it was pretty darn close.
I wonder if they'll mention the farewell party in the Yearbook.
Oh yeah, no Yearbook.
It's like last orders on the Titanic.
Did they invite the GB to the party?
Or are they too busy heading for the lifeboats?
this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
Yes and going back further I think pioneer hours were once 100 hours, and further back still, even more than that, maybe 120 or so.
Elders are allowed to count various activities including giving talks, I believe. I have no idea how longstanding that “allowance” is.
No statistical categories are stable or straightforward.
this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.
steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
Presumably you mean per year not per month.
And it’s intereeting that hours have gone down since carts began, despite it being “easier”. The amount of time on door to door, when you subtract carts time, must be much less now than previous years and decades.
it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".
it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.
since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.
How are they not Catalonian? Isn't that for them to decide?
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steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.
darkspilver: .
Baptisms have fallen sharply in Britain over the last couple of decades.
I seriously doubt there will be another year of positive growth in Britain. But I also doubt whether they'll continue publishing the figures in any case.
it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".
it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.
since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.
They should have allowed the Catalonian people a democratic vote on their future. What happened to the right to self determination?
If Spain remains a unitary state now, it comes on the back of violence, confiscated ballots, intimidation, political arrests. That is surely unsustainable. If it is maintained by force then it's a darker Europe and a darker world.
it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".
it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.
since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.
An independent Catalunya would never be admitted to the EU - who would they trade with, Cuba?
It’s a disgrace that Spain has not been expelled or at least censured by the EU for their actions: assaulting voters, confiscating ballots, arresting political opponents. People should think very carefully before giving this a free pass just because they think that the people seeking sovereignty are “idiots”. Who knows when the state may think you’re an “idiot” for seeking some democratic goal.
born in 1955 jacko was baptized at 13 years of age in 1968.his life story, printed in the august 2015 watchtower doesn't state the year in which he married, it's fairly general when talking about it.
hmmm, i wonder why?i've come across a recording of an interview with jacko at a hall dedication in another part of the us in 2009 which provides some further information.he married his first wife, jenny, in 1974 at the grand old age of 19. no wonder they didn't want to print it in the watchtower.unfortunately his first wife, jenny, was diagnosed with cancer in 1999.in 2003 jacko was sent a letter from the gb stating he was being transferred to hq and his wife would be given appropriate work.
he initially didn't know why they were being called to hq as he felt they were being very productive in their fijian paradise, he states that they brought 75 people into the truth.
Where is this talk is it online?
born in 1955 jacko was baptized at 13 years of age in 1968.his life story, printed in the august 2015 watchtower doesn't state the year in which he married, it's fairly general when talking about it.
hmmm, i wonder why?i've come across a recording of an interview with jacko at a hall dedication in another part of the us in 2009 which provides some further information.he married his first wife, jenny, in 1974 at the grand old age of 19. no wonder they didn't want to print it in the watchtower.unfortunately his first wife, jenny, was diagnosed with cancer in 1999.in 2003 jacko was sent a letter from the gb stating he was being transferred to hq and his wife would be given appropriate work.
he initially didn't know why they were being called to hq as he felt they were being very productive in their fijian paradise, he states that they brought 75 people into the truth.
Loraini looks older than 34 in this picture. I'd say mid 40s.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/ws20150815/let-many-islands-rejoice/
how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.
most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.
we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.
It's strange but I think I have better grounds for believing consciousness will continue now, than I did when I was a believing JW.
Like I have said elsewhere (to general derision and lack of engagement) if existence is comprised purely of material substances and forces, then we are immortal in a sense. The sense being that, if such properties comprise who we are in toto, then the extension or recapitulation of who we are is merely a technical question that will be solved one day. If there is a God then he could already solve it if he wishes. If there is no God then intelligent life will progress to the point where it meets the challenge itself. Either way we face immortality. If materialism is incorrect then that opens up yet more possibilities. But all lead back to immortality.
I understand that death may be the permanent end of consciousness. I don't honestly know how that could be the logical outcome. But I must acknowledge that since my understanding and knowledge are limited, it is possible there is a scenario which I cannot understand or do not have enough knowledge to apprehend.
Conversely the alternative to mortality is also a bit frightening, What does the universe or God have in store for us?