The latest WT says that Harold Corkern is president of the New York corporation, not Pennsylvania. It’s the president of the Pennsylvania corporation that was traditionally more significant, no?
slimboyfat
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Does The WT President Still Have Any Power?
by NotFormer inin rutherford's day, it was absolute.
knorr and franz had strong influence, even though the gb had voted themselves into a role of significance.
being a corporation, the wt will still have a president.
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Does The WT President Still Have Any Power?
by NotFormer inin rutherford's day, it was absolute.
knorr and franz had strong influence, even though the gb had voted themselves into a role of significance.
being a corporation, the wt will still have a president.
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slimboyfat
According to Wikipedia Ciranko is still president.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tower_Bible_and_Tract_Society_of_Pennsylvania
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Does The WT President Still Have Any Power?
by NotFormer inin rutherford's day, it was absolute.
knorr and franz had strong influence, even though the gb had voted themselves into a role of significance.
being a corporation, the wt will still have a president.
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slimboyfat
About as much power as the real, senile president these days, I’d say.
Joking aside, who is the Watchtower president now?
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024
by DerekMoors infor those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.
april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.
i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..
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slimboyfat
I think the plan was to lure vulnerable women to the hotel property in the pretence of offering “recovery” but in reality offering something else. At least that probably won’t come to pass as he envisioned. He also went to pick up female Ukrainians from the border at the start of the war. It’s as if he’s drawn to vulnerable females in general for some reason.
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Accepting blood transfusions. By which instrument it ceased to be a disfellowshipping offense to become cause for disassociation?
by EdenOne inok, i know the story of how it went, with the deal they reached with the bulgarian government, etc.
i know.. what i need to know is if there is an internal document that redefines willingly taking blood as a disfellowshipping offense into a cause for disassociation.
a letter from the branch?
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slimboyfat
Having said that, I think the practice of JW elders on the ground has softened markedly in recent decades. I know from experience there was a very light touch from elders around “assistance” to avoid blood, and also a degree of respect for privacy. I don’t know if that’s a result of direct instructions or just the approach of local elders, but I suspect that, as with many things in JW culture, the attitude of ordinary JW has become less hardline, or more apathetic to the blood teaching, to put it in more negative terms. The days of kidnapping children from hospitals and spying on fellow believers and leaking medical documents by JW hospital workers are all long gone.
The GB may never come out and reverse the blood ban but they do seem to be loosening the grip on enforcement. People who take blood seem more likely to be viewed as having made a mistake due to weakness, and need shepherding, rather than automatically DAed. This is my impression anyway, I’d be interested to know if others have observed this. The situation where they would still take a tough stance is probably where somebody takes blood and makes it known to others in the congregation they think they are doing the right thing. In that case they’d probably get DAed or DFed more for apostasy than for taking blood as such.
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Accepting blood transfusions. By which instrument it ceased to be a disfellowshipping offense to become cause for disassociation?
by EdenOne inok, i know the story of how it went, with the deal they reached with the bulgarian government, etc.
i know.. what i need to know is if there is an internal document that redefines willingly taking blood as a disfellowshipping offense into a cause for disassociation.
a letter from the branch?
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slimboyfat
Really important point by Diogenesister - DA is harsher in the sense that there’s no procedure for appeal in that outcome compared with DFing.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024
by DerekMoors infor those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.
april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.
i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..
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slimboyfat
Yup, definitely. He’ll be collecting money from strangers even if his channel disappears altogether. No shame.
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Black penis and other subliminal messages on song book
by Mikejw ini’m sure this has been covered in the past but there are a lot of videos appearing lately bringing this up again.. this chap phoned bethel in london about it and as soon as he said song book the service desk said i’m hanging up now.
they obviously know about it.. https://youtu.be/0dn-gj73r5u?si=ao4cd-0rpg7rv3ws.
so was there some pimos in the art department or was it more sinister and this organisation wanted to but pedo messages on the song book a bit like the demonic hand in the rev book?.
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slimboyfat
I’m pretty sure it’s two women on the cover at 23 minutes. Why do either of them have to be a man? Just because a person wears masculine clothes doesn’t mean they are a man. In your own video Mike says he is wearing a woman’s blouse, that doesn’t make Mike a woman does it?
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024
by DerekMoors infor those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.
april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.
i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..
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slimboyfat
No, JW leaks is predicting that LE’s Patreon account will be closed.
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Accepting blood transfusions. By which instrument it ceased to be a disfellowshipping offense to become cause for disassociation?
by EdenOne inok, i know the story of how it went, with the deal they reached with the bulgarian government, etc.
i know.. what i need to know is if there is an internal document that redefines willingly taking blood as a disfellowshipping offense into a cause for disassociation.
a letter from the branch?
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slimboyfat
From what I gather, a common practice was for elders to write the new instructions in the margin of their copies and then get the new edition next time it was updated.