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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Croatian shopping malls too, for some reason.

  Charities that don’t give him publicity he thinks he deserves …
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  "How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

  by BoogerMan in

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  simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

  a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

  b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

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  Yes I used to wonder this too, but as vienne says it’s not actually Watchtower teaching that the 1000 years began in 1914. The millennium is said to begin whenever Armageddon takes place and we enter the new system. This is a bit confusing because they say God’s kingdom began to rule in 1914. At the same time, remember that 1975 was anticipated to be the end of 6000 years since man’s creation, and the beginning of the millennium. When it didn’t happen in 1975 then it was pushed further into the future.

  The bottom line is that no matter how much time passes since 1914 it is still not eating into the 1000 reign, according to Watchtower teaching. So that’s one time related problem they don’t have to worry about.

  It does however become increasingly incredible to view 1914 - present as a “generation”, plus the devil was cast down following 1914 “knowing that he has a short period of time”. That “short period” is now well over 100 years and counting,
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  My impression is he’s a good guy too, although I find some of his titles and takes a bit cringe because they tend to overstate the case in the way that YouTube videos probably have to in order to get attention. Plus the videos are far too long. They need to get to the point. There’s another YouTuber I follow who summarises his main point at the start of the video in under a minute and then lets his audience decide whether they want to watch the whole 20 minutes or so. That’s an excellent approach and probably why he’s got millions of subscribers. 👍
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  "Independent" Scotland joke!

  by BoogerMan in

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  humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

  " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

  try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

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  Journeyman you are entitled to your opinion that Scotland shouldn’t be independent. But if you are arguing that Scotland has no right to choose independence then I don’t think there is any basis for discussion here. Even the most extreme unionists at Holyrood or Westminster have argued against independence but have accepted that Scotland has the right to choose independence if it wishes. Because they have generally understood and recognised that the idea that the union is not voluntary is fatal to the concept of union.

  None of your whataboutery over the EU works. Scotland is under 10% of the population of UK. Whereas the UK was more than 10% of the population of the EU. If you are saying that England has control over Scotland in a way that Europe didn’t have control over Scotland then you are turning Scotland into a colony or a captive state.

  The closest analogy to Scotland leaving the union of course is Ireland leaving the union in 1921. Hardly anybody now argues that Ireland had no right to independence or that Westminster didn’t handle it atrociously. And where is the movement in the Republic of Ireland to rejoin the UK? There isn’t one. Or if there is it’s so tiny it doesn’t have any representation at any level of politics in the Republic of Ireland. Because Ireland is now more prosperous and outward looking than the UK. The idea that Scotland would be the first country in world history to “regret” independence is pure unionist fantasy. Countries such as Ireland that declare independence don’t look back.

  The union of the crowns took place in 1603 and the 2014 referendum didn’t propose to end that union. It was the voluntary political union of the Scottish state with the English state in 1707 that will be dissolved on independence.
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  "Independent" Scotland joke!

  by BoogerMan in

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  humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

  " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

  try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

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  ITSupport great to “see” you. I hope you’re doing well!

  LoveUni I wonder were you in favour of France or Germany having a vote on whether the UK should be allowed to break up the European Union?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  It was a classic. Would be fun if we could enter it for some sort of award, a fitting legacy you might say. ‘Shooting yourself in the foot video award’, or something.
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  Wimbledon's attitude to Russian/Belorussian players ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  ... is absolutely ridiculous.. last year, 2022, russian and belorussian tennis players were banned from wimbledon.

  let that just sink in.

  if you were a pro tennis player, and happened to be a russian or belorussian citizen, the all england club decided that you could not compete at their annual grass tournament.. let's explore that particular brand of discrimination and lunacy further.

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  It’s only fair after all - remember all the UK and US athletes who were banned from the 2004 Olympics following the illegal invasion of Iraq.

  And it’ll be good to see Putin in The Hague once the trials of Blair and Bush are wrapped up.
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  Did Jesus say the God of the OT is not the same God as mine??

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. bible

  bart erhman states, in this you tube short presumably taken from the video series he has been doing with megan lewis*, that jesus said the god of the ot, the god of jeremiah, is not the (same)god as jesus.

  bart continues "jeremiah's god killed (the children) - jesus said let the children come to me.

  jesus' god said turn the other cheek" - the ot god was war-like etc (paraphrasing bart here a bit).. it's always been the thing that stopped my fully embracing the bible after leaving watchtower.

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  Matthew 22

  Marriage at the Resurrection

  23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question.24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”

  29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”
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  Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

  by pizzahut2023 in

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  ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

  let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

  they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

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  Hopefully you can make out that photo. It is from FF Bruce’s commentary on Hebrews, where he explains that it is God who is addressing the Son as “Lord” in Heb 1.10 in accordance with a messianic interpretation of Psalm 101 in the Greek. You can read the commentary at the following link, although I think you need to make an account with the archive site, which is well worth doing anyway.

  https://archive.org/details/epistletohebrews0000ffbr/page/22/mode/2up?view=theater
  
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  Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

  by pizzahut2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

  let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

  they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

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  Personally I think Fred Franz invested far too much faith in the so-called J, or Hebrew versions as a guide for where to restore the divine name. Apart from the couple of Hebrew versions that possibly reflect ancient originals, I don’t see why Hebrew versions should have any more weight than the judgment of other modern translators, or more importantly, internal and external considerations in the individual texts themselves.

  Psalm 102 isn’t messianic in the Hebrew original, but the author of Hebrews is quoting Psalm 101 in the Greek version. The Hebrew version doesn’t have the word Lord or the name YHWH in verse 25. It says:

  In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth,
  and the heavens are the work of your hands.

  But the Greek version of the Psalm uses the word Lord.

  26 In the beginning thou, O Lord, didst lay the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands.

  Some commentators have noted that God appears to be speaking to this “Lord” because in the previous verse in the Greek it says:

  24 He answered him in the way of his strength: tell me the fewness of my days. 25 Take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are through all generations. 26 In the beginning thou, O Lord, didst lay the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands.

  It seems like a radically different take, but parts of the LXX were read as Christological statements like this, that are quite different from their original contexts. Note the Christian reading of the “young woman” in Isaiah 7, the “angel of great counsel” in Isaiah 9, the suffering servant in Isaiah 53, the messianic king in Psalm 2,45, 110, and so on.

  In the context of Hebrews chapter 1 we have already been told that it is God who created through his Son in Heb 1.2. So presumably Heb 1.10 was meant to complement that statement, not contradict it. The quotation of Psalm 101 in the LXX was intended to underline the part that the Son of God played in the creation of the physical heavens and earth, and the contrast between him as the instrument of creation who will never fade, and the nature of material things that wear out over time.

  I need to think about where I got the idea that the NWT erred on the side of caution in where to restore the divine name. It’s probably in the front matter of the versious editions of the NWT and KIT but I haven’t checked.