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  For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

  by BourneIdentity in

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  in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

  we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

  why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

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  I was quite surprised to find out something today. i found out that there is significant number of intelligent people who believe that the Patterson film is genuine and have written articles in support of it. If you don’t remember the name, then you will certainly remember the fuzzy video from the 1960s of a man in an Ape costume walking at the edge of a forest.

  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson–Gimlin_film

  How can anyone believe that was a real animal and not a human dressed up? I don’t know - the mind boggles.

  On the other hand there are many millions of people on the planet who claim to have had experience of God in their lives. If God exists it would stand to reason he would wish to make himself known to people, and many people claim he has done just that, in their lives. Sometimes I have the sense that the world makes sense and that God is the only explanation for why the world exists and why we can perceive the world as existing. I can’t understand how it could be that everything that exists does exist of itself and for no reason outside of itself. The only thing that makes any sense to me is that there should be someone outside of being who called all things that exist into existence for some purpose. And if we look at history and consider religious traditions, I think Christianity has much to recommend itself.
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  Great crowd article @ september study Watchtower

  by Gorbatchov in

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  has anyone read the article about the great crowd in the september study watchtower?.

  i read an elephant in the room.

  is there a change comming?

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  Initially anyone who was anointed after 1935 was explained as being a “replacement” for pre-1935 anointed who had left the truth, but they have long since abandoned that expanation. There is no official cut off for anointed any more, but in practice any younger person outside of the GB, and GB hopefuls (Paul Gillies still hopeful, or losing hope?) who partakes is viewed with suspicion.
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  Great crowd article @ september study Watchtower

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  has anyone read the article about the great crowd in the september study watchtower?.

  i read an elephant in the room.

  is there a change comming?

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  slimboyfat

  Anointed were generally supposed to be dedicated, baptised (and anointed) before 1935, not just born before 1935. I think Jack Barr was the last serving GB member to meet this strict qualification: he was born in 1913, baptised in 1934, and died in 2010.

  I wonder who was the first GB member who was baptised after 1935? Possibly Raymond Franz, baptised 1939, and appointed in 1971. I think the rest of the the 1971 GB were baptised before 1935. (Although I have not checked)

  Of the 1974 intake, Ted Jaracz was baptised after 1935, maybe others too, and increasingly after that.
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  Killed this bastrd today in my shrubs.

  by rockemsockem in

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  if it does not have hips it dies if i see it.

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  slimboyfat

  Some credit snakes with prompting the evolution of better eyesight in humans.

  https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/03/19/394099609/we-may-have-snakes-to-thank-for-our-acute-vision
  
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  Question- do JWs use the term overlapping generations

  by Xanthippe in

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  2. beliefs

  ... or is that one of our memes?

  thanks..

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  slimboyfat

  As others have said, JWs don’t talk about it, presumably because it’s embarrasong. Such a contrast with the 1980s when the old “generation” teaching provoked conversation and excitement, at least among some.

  Note interesting use of the word “overlapping” in a QFR from 1952:
  

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/lv/r1/lp-e/0/40946
  

  Questions From Readers
  ● Your publications point out that the battle of Armageddon will come in this generation, and that this generation began A.D. 1914. Scripturally, how long is a generation?—G. P., Liberia.
  Webster’s unabridged dictionary gives, in part, this definition of generation: “The average lifetime of man, or the ordinary period of time at which one rank follows another, or father is succeeded by child; an age. A generation is usually taken to be about 33 years.” But the Bible is not so specific. It gives no number of years for a generation. And in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32, the texts mentioning the generation the question refers to, we are not to take generation as meaning the average time for one generation to be succeeded by the next, as Webster’s does in its 33-year approximation; but rather more like Webster’s first-quoted definition, “the average lifetime of man.” Three or even four generations may be living at the same time, their lives overlapping. (Ps. 78:4; 145:4) Before the Noachian flood the life span was hundreds of years. Down through the centuries since, it has varied, and even now is different in different countries. The Bible does speak of a man’s days as being threescore and ten or fourscore years; but it assigns no specific number of years to a generation.—Ps. 90:10.

  Even if it did, we could not calculate from such a figure the date of Armageddon, for the texts here under discussion do not say God’s battle comes right at the end of this generation, but before its end. To try to say how many years before its end would be speculative. The texts merely set a limit that is sufficiently definite for all present practical purposes. Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of a generation. There are hundreds of millions of persons living now that were living in 1914, and many millions of these persons could yet live a score or more years. Just when the lives of the majority of them will be cut short by Armageddon we cannot say.
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  What the heck is this all about?

  by HiddenPimo in

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  sorry - but can anyone substantiate some truth to this article or is it all a mess?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/jehovahswitnesses/comments/7qhe2p/expos%c3%a9_the_governing_body_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

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  can anyone substantiate some truth to this article

  Yes, Johnny the bethelite vouches for it, 100%.
  
  
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  Observation on the external appearance of Kingdom Halls (or are they JW.ORG facilities?)

  by sd-7 in

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  i happened to be picking up the family from the kingdom hall today, and it struck me how the outside appearance has changed a little.

  i know it's not new, but perhaps being away from it all for so long made a difference.. of course i noticed the blue jw.org box on the side labeled "kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses", but it was two things that stood out to me.

  the first thing was the meeting times.

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  slimboyfat

  The generic term “midweek meeting” wasn’t possible until they dumped the book study (in 2008?) because you would need to specify which midweek meeting.

  I know Unitarians discussed using the term “midweek meeting” but rejected it on the grounds that it apparently sounds evangelical.
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  Should Reparations Be Given To Relatives of Slaves?

  by minimus in

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  some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!

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  what do you think about dispensing reparations?

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  Plus it seems odd to me that anyone on the left would prioritise injustices from centuries ago when there are many racial injustices in the present that need fixing first.

  Such as the preponderance of black people in prisons being compelled to perform free labour for commercial companies. Is it the case that, while white people are more likely to use drugs, back people are far more likely to be convicted of using drugs?

  We have a similar situation in the UK where poorer black people in London who use cocaine can spend many years in jail, whereas wealthy while people who use cocaine are considered good candidates for prime minister.
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  Should Reparations Be Given To Relatives of Slaves?

  by minimus in

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  some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!

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  what do you think about dispensing reparations?

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  slimboyfat

  I have a question. Has anyone with any real access to power (such as a Democrat with a good chance of achieving high office) actually promoted the idea of reparations as described in this thread? It seems to me a pretty a unworkable idea as described, and it really makes me wonder if it’s a serious policy option or, more likely, a fringe idea that some on the left have suggested, and that people on the right have decided to shout about as loudly as they can, as if it’s mainstream democrat policy, and milk it for all its worth.
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  Should Reparations Be Given To Relatives of Slaves?

  by minimus in

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  some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!

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  what do you think about dispensing reparations?

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  slimboyfat

  The land was bought and paid for.

  I knew I shouldn’t open this thread.