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  Subliminal Messaging

  by truthlover123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

  question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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  slimboyfat

  Could be Hebrew - gimel, chet, lamed, dalet, vav... don’t know. Is there a word there?

  I’m very skeptical about hidden images. The mind sees patterns everywhere. Patterns throw up faces and other images, or even words from time to time. It’s pretty difficult to demonstrate that any particular example is likely deliberate, in my view. Not convinced the black penis was deliberate, for example. But it’s entirely plausible it was removed when someone pointed it out.

  Having said that, Watchtower artists probably do insert things in their drawings, which is pretty common among artists generally. In fact I think Watchtower admitted this and cracked down on it in the 1980s. (The famous statement that a GB member would monitor the images) So from another perspective it’s not a big deal either.
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  jwfacts.com Have you looked at it?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i use this extensively rather than re-inventing the wheel.. paul grundy, the admin, keeps it up-to-date and welcomes any corrections or new information, especially in a well-written article, supported by wt publication quotes.. the 2 places i check first is www.jwfacts.com and then searching on jwn with key word(s) to see if the topic has been already extensively researched or commented on.. don't be frightened away by the material being more than 3 paragraphs.

  the quotes from wt publications is are extensive and from publications that are older and less available.

  i find it good to read many posts on a single topic and expand my knowledge and sources.. blondie.

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  slimboyfat

  Although there are many reasons to be DFed, probably 90% plus of cases are forniaction, with apostasy making up most of the rest.

  Does anyone know more unusual cases?

  I know of one person DFed for smoking, one for drunkenness, one for heroin use, one for practising Feng Shui!

  Does anyone know anyone DFed for “extorting” a high bride price!? Or other unusual rule.
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  Why the Catholic Church outlast Jehovah's Witnesses

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.

  i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..

  how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..

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  slimboyfat

  Very interesting post, joe134cd 👍
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  jwfacts.com Have you looked at it?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i use this extensively rather than re-inventing the wheel.. paul grundy, the admin, keeps it up-to-date and welcomes any corrections or new information, especially in a well-written article, supported by wt publication quotes.. the 2 places i check first is www.jwfacts.com and then searching on jwn with key word(s) to see if the topic has been already extensively researched or commented on.. don't be frightened away by the material being more than 3 paragraphs.

  the quotes from wt publications is are extensive and from publications that are older and less available.

  i find it good to read many posts on a single topic and expand my knowledge and sources.. blondie.

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  slimboyfat

  Jwfacts is a good site for information.

  I can remember when I first began to doubt Watchtower, I read absolutely everything I could find on Watchtower history. Whole websites, every single page. In particular: Watchtower Observer, Freeminds, Reachout, Carm, Watchtower Information Service, and many others.

  Jwfacts was a bit too late for me, and I’ve only read bits of it. It if existed ten years earlier I am sure I would have read the whole website in a couple of days. But then, my attention span isn’t what it used to be.
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  Why the Catholic Church outlast Jehovah's Witnesses

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.

  i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..

  how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..

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  slimboyfat

  Yes I find myself thinking similar thoughts. The growth of JWs during the 20th century was pretty impressive, despite those who like to downplay it, yet the communities they have established are ultimately pretty weak and prone to decline just as fast, or faster than they appeared.

  I compare it to the decline of the Church of Scotland which has been on a downward trend for over half a century. Some have predicted it will close before 2040. Yet in some ways it displays more resilience than JWs. Ten years ago I would never have expected that the Church of Scotland Yearbook would outlast the JW Yearbook, and yet here in 2019 the JW Yearbook is discontinued, and the CofS red Yearbooks are still going strong.
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  BBC Radio 4 comedy show (Ex JW, very good)

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  heard this today in the car and thought i would share it.

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  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b07x6mf3.

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  slimboyfat

  Heard it before, it’s a repeat, but very good. Especially thr dismantling of “new light” - spot on.
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  2019 International Convention Growth Figures from Baptism

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the borg has put up the attendance and baptism figured from the miami and atlanta international conventions.. amazing growth!.

  atlanta - 46,374 peak attendance / baptized 314.

  0.67% growth.

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  slimboyfat

  The “growth” percentage presented appears to be baptisms exprsssed as a percentage of those in attendance at the convention, which is a peculiar way to calculate “growth” to say the least.

  Since when was attendance at a convention the measure of JW membership?

  What about people who died or became inactive?

  Why are only baptisms from the summer convention counted and not the two assemblies?

  Not to mention unbaptised publishers, and other issues.

  I don’t think this “growth” figure tells us anything much at all. A comparison with last years’ attendance and baptism figures at those conventions would be useful information.
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  Amber Scorah is on the Daily Show tonight.

  by I quit! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to let everyone know that ex-jw amber scorch is on the daily show on comedy central tonight.

  it should very good.

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  slimboyfat

  Not available for my country.
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  Amber Scorah is on the Daily Show tonight.

  by I quit! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to let everyone know that ex-jw amber scorch is on the daily show on comedy central tonight.

  it should very good.

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  slimboyfat

  Is a clip available?
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  slimboyfat

  So you wouldn’t even want an end to Watchtower shunning unless it included a full acknowledgment and apology for past actions? That seems like making the perfect the enemy of the good. If Watchtower saving some face is the price to pay for ending shunning it seems a good deal. Or are you more interested in vengeance than preventing harm?