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  "Deficit" at JW Assembly

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.

  i really don't understand these things.

  it's their own assembly hall.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes very interesting.

  £120,000 contributions, £94,000 expenses and depreciation of £134,000. Seems like a loss. So much for assemblies generating huge income for Watchtower.
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  Excellent YouTube channel

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few days ago, thanks to someone's post on here (sorry i forgot who it was), i found an awesome youtube channel called theramintrees.

  the videos this guy has made are amazing!

  i'm sure others here have seen some of his videos.

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  The content is good, but I find the voice and graphics downright creepy.
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  Blade Runner - the new movie

  by days of future passed in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i went to see blade runner 2 because i liked the first one.

  even tho the first one was i think rated r, i still saw it.

  the whole atmosphere of the first one was bizarre and real to itself.. if you don't want to be spoiled, don't read on.. with high hopes, despite hearing that it tanked at the box office (are the critics crazy?

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  slimboyfat

  Yes, plodding and ponderous, with not much to ponder. When they crushed the file making "Joi" underfoot, I thought so what. Harrison Ford looked as tired and weary as his audience about the whole thing.
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  All this speculation.....

  by pontoon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's mine... wat corp is flush with money.

  there product is a hope--obey us and god might let you live.

  gb knows they can say and change beliefs,doctrine, twist scripture without losing more then they gain.

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  slimboyfat

  A few facts that are not speculation:

  1. Watchtower used to make millions of dollars a week selling books and magazines. That has completely dried up.

  2. In 2015 the governing body made an appeal for more donations because they had a running deficit.

  3. In 2015 they abandoned building projects and began laying off more than a quarter of their staff.

  4. They have cut printing of books and magazines back to bare bones. Maybe will eliminate entirely.

  5. Abuse claims are stacking up in many countries and membership figures are starting to decline.

  A few things that are speculation:

  1. Despite all appearances, the GB are really evil geniuses who will always have plenty of money no matter what.

  2. Because JWs really believe in it the organisation can never go bust.

  3. The GB may be dumb but the "money men" who "really run the religion" know what they are doing.

  4. The GB just want to make it look like they are in financial trouble to build up a nest egg.

  5. Maybe they get charity funding, maybe they have tons of money invested, maybe they have a plan to generate revenue for the website, or maybe from tithing... maybe, maybe, maybe.
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  Grounds for divorce and other questions

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  doing research for my book.

  since i no longer have any of of the watchtower bible and truck society publications.

  1. was it true (and believe it was) that in the nineteen sixties that even if one of the marriage mates was a homosexual that this was not concerned grounds for divorce?.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes I remember something like that. Homosexual sex was not considered adultery, so therefore the other partner couldn't divorce and be free to marry. Don't ask me why, some convoluted reason no doubt.

  JWs can separate and get a "legal" divorce for abuse, but they can't get a "scriptural" divorce.
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  October 10, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Branch Relocation Newsletter (UK)

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 10, 2017 to all congregations re: branch relocation—newsletter.

  britain branch relocation project edition 6 autumn 2017.

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  slimboyfat

  Six newsletters a year? It's overtaken the Watchtower's paltry three editions a year.

  Debt obligations of £94 million? Don't tell Morth of Sparky.

  And it's not due to be completed until 2020, is that right? I didn't know it would take so long.

  Prediction: the cost will exceed projections and this project will never be completed. They've bitten off more than they can chew at precisely the wrong moment.
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  October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.

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  So can we agree there are grounds to think the letter is, at the very least, suspect?

  How can we determine if letters in general are genuine in such situations?

  And if we can't make a clear determination, doesn't it call into question ALL such letters?

  I think it's a very stupid move, whoever would do this.

  Yet the impulse to forgery has a long and tenacious history in all human affairs. Some people create forgeries for no greater reason than the satisfaction of pulling it off. They can be the most difficult to identify because they have no obvious agenda or motive.
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  Did you leave the JW RECENTLY? Really? Recently? WTF were you thinking?

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?

  between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?

  good god.

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  I can sympathise with the question.

  When I first got on the Internet in 1999 "Jehovah's witnesses" was the first thing I googled and I read absolutely everything I could find. At first I believed JWs had the truth and nothing I could read would contradict that.

  I just assumed all JWs would do the same.

  It's been a long strange process of realisation for me: that all (or most) of the JWs I knew, and who said they were interested in "the truth", and claimed to believe the facts were on their side... when it comes down to it, are either afraid or are not interested in challenging their beliefs.

  Some of them seem to lack basic curiousoty about the belief system which has dominated their lives. I'll never understand that.
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  October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.

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  slimboyfat

  Darksilver I know it is available at avoidjw, as I mentioned in a couple of posts that this letter differs from the others archived there.

  You suggest I should read about Nigerian English. Is that an oblique way of saying you believe the letter is genuine? Care to be more explicit, and give your reasons?
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  If WT are cutting back on mags will they also cut back on Bethelites?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking after hearing about the agm cutbacks to the mags and other website content surely they will end up dismissing more bethelites?

  i would have thought in the old days, before the web, an artist or writer at bethel would have been a full time job making content for four 32 page mags a month.

  now what are these guys going to do?.

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  Yes. Considering Knorr managed to run the entire WT publishing empire with around 5000 workers, whereas now there are still 19,000 (down from 26,000);I'd say yes, they have a long way to go with the personnel cuts.

  How low can they go? With little or no literature to produce, down below 1000 worldwide, perhaps? Why not?