Posts by slimboyfat

tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

ps.

slimboyfat

Did this turn out to be nothing?

If it was someone pulling your leg WTS Archive don't feel bad, it's not your fault.

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November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning

by bohm in

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november broadcast is up:.

https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.

we learn interesting things.

slimboyfat

6. High morals? I know athiests with high morals.

That's ridiculous. All atheists are moral degenerates without the anchor of the almighty to guide their life.

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Help with fading, please...

by longgone in

i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.

i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.

i'm another born in, third generation.

slimboyfat

Does anyone locally know of any disfellowshipping offence? Hardline as they are, I don't think they are disfellowshipping just for being inactive, so it shouldn't be an immediate concern. Have you tried simply telling family you are very stressed and that's why you're not at meetings at the moment? Then change the subject.

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A stunning piece of LOGIC from the Apostle Paul

by nicolaou in

1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.

and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .

slimboyfat

nicolaou, you say that asserting the reality of resurrection, if it is not real, would be cruel, for example especially for parents who have lost children.

However the converse is also true. If resurrection is real, and parents were convinced it was not real, that would also be cruel.

So all you have proved is that it is an important issue, not helped to decide it one way or the other.

In fact we could go further and say it would be more cruel in the second scenario than in the first since it involves avoidable pain.

Plus when you really think about it, it is hard to understand how a hope of resurrection is cruel in any circumstance. If parents go to their graves believing in resurrection, when does the cruelty kick in? We'd have to imagine some final sort of explanation being delivered to them that their hope has been false and is definitely wrong. Is that final realisation supposed to happen at death, or else when? And if it doesn't ever happen, then in what real sense has their hope been cruel?

Militant atheists are a bit like someone who interrupts a musical concert to inform everyone the music is rubbish.

Well we don't think it's rubbish.

You might not think it's rubbish, but it is rubbish, and I can't sit here in good conscience without letting you know that you are deluded if you don't realise it's rubbish.

But we enjoy it and it's full of meaning for us.

I don't dispute that you think it is meaningful, but you are wrong, it is empty and it is cruel to let you go on thinking otherwise.

Okay well thanks for your thoughts, can we get on with the concert now?

Not if I've got anything to do with it.

Oh brother.

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An ex-JW's interpretation on "All Along the Watchtower" by Bob Dylan

by intropist in

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made by bob dylan and far-famed with the fantastic guitar playing of jimmy hendrix, "all along the watchtower" has been leaving great signatures in the pop history.

i want to have a chance to drop my own interpretation.

reading the below, you may need to take into consideration the fact that i'm not a native speaker in english.. [all along the watchtower] written by bob dyan - full lyrics.

slimboyfat

Others have made connections...

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/199683/all-along-watchtower-true-meaning-revealed?page=1&size=10

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An ex-JW's interpretation on "All Along the Watchtower" by Bob Dylan

by intropist in

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friends

made by bob dylan and far-famed with the fantastic guitar playing of jimmy hendrix, "all along the watchtower" has been leaving great signatures in the pop history.

i want to have a chance to drop my own interpretation.

reading the below, you may need to take into consideration the fact that i'm not a native speaker in english.. [all along the watchtower] written by bob dyan - full lyrics.

slimboyfat

I don't think this song has anything to do with JWs. The use of the the word Watchtower is a coincidence. Unless there's any evidence for a link?

Conceptually Hotal California is a better fit, although neither is that "about" JWs, except in the eye of the beholder, as far as I know

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J W Survey Article : Upcoming Assembly Encourages J W Youth to Lie About Homosexuality

by BluesBrother in

..........however, it seems that this practice [theocratic warfare] is seeping more and more into regular witness life.

in fact, one speech outline for the upcoming 2017 circuit assembly appears to directly encourage witnesses to lie to the general public about watchtower’s teachings on homosexuality............. http://jwsurvey.org/mind-control/upcoming-2017-jw-assembly-encourages-witness-youths-to-lie-about-homosexuality.

nb this is a month old.. if it has been previously posted and i missed it, sorry .

slimboyfat

There is something really obnoxious with the idea that JWs treat homosexuals equally with single heterosexuals because both are in the "same position" of having to abstain from sex. The fact is single heterosexual JWs can find partners if they are willing and able whereas homosexual JWs can't. Even if they are not in a position to do so, single heterosexual JWs can at least dream about finding a partner. Even the dreams of homosexual JWs, even if not acted upon, are deemed sinful in themselves. The idea that this constitutes equal treatment is risible.