Rutherford called it, "the greatest of all doctrines", but Karl Klein noticed it wasn't in the Bible.
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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name
by slimboyfat ini start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
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Just a reminder about voting
by Simon inthere appear to be some people who are of the mistaken opinion that endlessly clicking the like or dislike button 20x will mean 20x votes.. it doesn't !!!.
only one vote is ever counted.
1 user, 1 vote, each post.
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slimboyfat
I'm confused. If it doesn't do anything, then how are you aware of people doing it? And if it's only visible on the screen of the person doing it, how will you know if they stop?
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There is science that prove God exists
by HopeEverLasting injehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
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slimboyfat
...makes about as much sense as saying that science doesn't disprove a tea party it just makes a tea party unnecessary.
And reality is socially constructed.
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There is science that prove God exists
by HopeEverLasting injehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
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slimboyfat
Isn't using science to figure out God like using a ruler to measure how loud the radio is?
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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name
by slimboyfat ini start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
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slimboyfat
I start this thread in response to a comment by a JW apologist called SimonSays on another thread. He claimed to have read all three volumes of Vindication by Rutherford (my sympathy if true). He further implied that it didn't matter that old JW literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:
I have read all 3 volumes of vindication, and understand it’s reasoning for that era. Of course, I won’t apply it to modern ideology, but the core value still holds.
Well actually that's a bit of a stretch, because the Vindication books promoted the "vindication" doctrine what was arguably the major JW doctrine of the era, a doctrine that was unceremoniously dumped in the 1990s. Rutherford constantly emphasised the vindication of Jehovah's name as the most important issue of all: it was the main reason Jesus came to earth, it was the main reason for preaching, it was the main reason for Armageddon.
So why did JWs dump it in the 1990s? The story goes that it was because hapless Karl Klein was posted to the Writing Deparment. Feeling a bit underappreciated, and wanting to make his mark on official JW teaching, he was scratching around for some "new light" he could invent. He noticed that the scripture that was often used to support the "vindication of Jehovah's name" actually talks about the "sanctification" of Jehovah's name. So Klein pointed out that technically JWs should talk about the sanctification and not the vindication of Jehovah's name. They could still talk about the vindication of Jehovah's sovereignty, but not so much, as it turns out. Thus was dropped the "vindication of Jehovah's name", which had been the central massage of JWs for most of the 20th century.
So no, the "core" of books like Vindication I, II, and III have not been retained. Old JW publications go out of date, not merely in style, contemporary facts, or approach. The very core of old JW publications has been rendered obsolete by their changing teachings.
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Experience You'll Never Hear at The Conventions: I write Porn Part Time and Pioneer!
by MTSman ini’m a pioneer in city of brotherly love.
(yeah i said my city.
don’t give a fuck) most pioneers who need extra money, get a part gig working as a security guard, barista, or making sandwiches for a few bucks an hour.
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slimboyfat
I've been thinking about doing the same thing! Can you explain where and how you've manage to monetise your work?
I've often thought there might be a market for "Erotic Tales at the Kingdom Hall" or "Confessions of a Naughty Pioneer" or some such.
The only thing holds me back is I don't think I've got your talent for fiction.
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UK Article: Campaigner's 'grave concerns' over new directives for Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/campaigner-s-grave-concerns-over-new-directives-for-jehovah-s-witnesses-1-8068458.
campaigner’s ‘grave concerns’ over new directives for jehovah’s witnesses.
steven rose .
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slimboyfat
I disliked slidinfast's comment about his appearance yesterday. Then later I saw the videos of him blacking up and singing that weird song. And I too thought, "Mmm".
Apostates are a strange bunch, you've got to give that to us.
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Incredible cover of book published in 1932
by Truthexplorer inok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.
what is incredible is the book cover.
the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.
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slimboyfat
Eve without a belly button!
These days Watchtower artists avoid the belly button issue by covering up the area.
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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slimboyfat
The thing about the video: the participants should have known it was a joke. But on the other hand, is there anything in there that Trump absolutely couldn't have said himself? It's hard to say that because he's said so many ridiculous things. Was there anything in the spoof videos actually worse than joking about political assassination? You don't get much more stupid than that. And that was actual Trump, not spoof Trump.
The conclusion has got to be that Trump himself is actually a spoof, it's just that about a third of the country doesn't realise it. The idea that his whole campaign has been a deliberate attempt to help Hillary doesn't seem so far fetched.
The bald guy at the back was interesting. He seemed to think it was all a joke, but he supported it anyway. Which kind of sums up the attitude of Trump supporters.
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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slimboyfat
I'm surprised not more comments on the video. It's one of the craziest things I ever seen. What is happening to America?