I am shocked.
Oh well, indepdendence here we come! And sooner than I thought.
I would have preferred rUK as a fellow indepdendent country within the EU. Maybe in time they will reconsider.
slimboyfat
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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Here's a view on homosexuality for you...
by konceptual99 in...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.
all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.
homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.
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slimboyfat
I was also told by an elder (a few years ago now) that we are very close to Armageddon, and his number one proof was the fact that gay marriage is beginning to be accepted by "the world".
It struck me then and it strikes me now how completely warped a view of the world that is. To believe in a God who is not moved to intervene in human affairs to stop a wars that waste millions of lives, or toruture, or slavery, or genocides, or tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands. Human history plays out over thousands of years right up until the point when some regions of the earth decide gay marriage is a thing. And it is at that point that the God of whole universe steps in and says: that's enough! And he brings on Armageddon to stop the "madness".
It's in conversations like that when I realise most of all there is simply no point discussing issues with some people. Their view on the world is so completely different that there is no reasonable point of contact to build upon.
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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slimboyfat
Postal vote is in. This is the final result.
Scotland voted 62% to stay in Europe
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List of "pagan" things JW's allow
by problemaddict 2 inwhat i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.
the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.
for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.
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When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything - G KChesterton
by slimboyfat ini have been reading rodney stark's new book triumph of faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well.
in fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
above is a particular quote he likes to use when refusing secularisation.
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slimboyfat
Treating evolution as a religion borders on superstition like believing in trolls.
The opposite of belief isn't atheist it's apathy.
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When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything - G KChesterton
by slimboyfat ini have been reading rodney stark's new book triumph of faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well.
in fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
above is a particular quote he likes to use when refusing secularisation.
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slimboyfat
It's not just trolls people turn to after rejecting God. Some make a religion out of evolution for example as we see on this forum.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-as-Religion-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415278333
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When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything - G KChesterton
by slimboyfat ini have been reading rodney stark's new book triumph of faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well.
in fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
above is a particular quote he likes to use when refusing secularisation.
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slimboyfat
I have been reading Rodney Stark's new book Triumph of Faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well. In fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
Above is a particular quote he likes to use when refuting secularisation. or generally the idea that, as humankind progresses toward greater enlightenment and rationality, it is becoming steadily less religious. He claims that even people who don't go to church still believe in the spiritual. He uses the example of Iceland. On the one hand secularists can point to it as a very secular country that's stopped going to church, stopped believing traditional Christian teaching, and has a relatively high number of atheists. On the other hand close to half of the population of Iceland believe that trolls live on the land. So much so that when they plan a new building they first seek confirmation from troll experts that they are not building on top of a troll settlement, which would bring terrible luck. Icelanders may have given up on the Christian God but the G K Chesterton rule seems to apply. How does that fit in with the idea that we are progressing toward rational secularity?
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Proof that Daniel was written 400 years after the events it describes and how much it gets wrong
by purrpurr ini've been studying the bible anew and have just realised that the writer of daniel gets the kings of babylon completely wrong and confused.
he says that nebuchadnezzar was succeeded by his son belshazzar .
then along comes good old cyrus the great who liberates the jews.. yet this is wrong!
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slimboyfat
This book by Furuli must be due soon:
At present I am working on a book entitled: "When Was the Book of Daniel Written? A Linguistic, Philological and Historical Approach," where I question the view that the book of Daniel was written in the second century BCE in connection with the acts of Antiochus IV.
https://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2254
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British Branch Committee
by Paul Bonanno indoes anyone know the present members of the british branch committee?.
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slimboyfat
Don't know but I vaguely remember a thread saying Paul Gillies was gone is that true? And Ron Drage and Peter Ellis too. I don't follow these things.
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Harassment of Individual JWs
by Simon injust a reminder:.
please do not use this site to pursue, conduct or incite harassment of any individual jws who are not officers or directors of the organization.. if someone is guilty of some specific crime then it should be reported to the authorities but someone simply following their religious beliefs and taking part in their chosen religion should be free to do so without personal attacks..
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slimboyfat
Good points to make. At the same time I do think the post on another thread that may have prompted this post was intended as a joke, and I think most would have read it that way. Good to clarify nonetheless.