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  Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing

  by Freeandclear in

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  so is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?

  let me explain.

  about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.

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  slimboyfat

  Narkisoss recommended that I read The Outsider by Albert Camus and Narcissus and Goldmund by Hermann Hesse. Which was good. See also this thread.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/134324/nothing
  
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  How to wind up a JW

  by slimboyfat in

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  tell him that jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.

  stand back watch fireworks.. i thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say.

  pop.

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  I think he was pretty flustered because he insisted that Jesus would have died on the "cross" for nothing if he was married and only slightly hesitated after the word cross and didn't bother to fix it before making the rest of the argiment.
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  How to wind up a JW

  by slimboyfat in

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  tell him that jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.

  stand back watch fireworks.. i thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say.

  pop.

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  I said I was sure I read it in a Watchtower that he was a normal man only without sin and he could have got married if he wanted to. And that almost all men got married in that culture so it would be unusual if Jesus didn't get married. This did not go down well, to say the least. So I backtracked.

  At some point it dawned on me that I had read Bart Ehrman make this argument, not the Watchrower. It's come to something when I mix up Ehrman and the Watchtower!

  In the end I said I must have mixed up Jesus with Paul. It's Paul that might have been married, probably not but we can't be sure.

  The JW was not impressed at my explanation that I mixed up Jesus with Paul, I'm definitely bad association again. Ah well.
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  How to wind up a JW

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
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  tell him that jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.

  stand back watch fireworks.. i thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say.

  pop.

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  slimboyfat

  Tell him that Jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the Bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.

  Stand back watch fireworks.

  I thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say. Pop. Think I might be "bad association" again.
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  Hello

  by John Doe in

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  i used to post on this site years ago.

  then, my login quit working.

  haven't been here in a long time.

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  slimboyfat

  Are you still taking questions?

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/192601/stump-expert?page=1&size=20
  
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  Ever-changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses - probably the most comprehensive compendium about Watchtower doctrinal changes

  by WTS Archive in

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  two days ago a new book was released for download, called "ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses".

  it was originally written by a polish jw scholar (who never was a jw himself) włodzimierz bednarski, with a help from szymon matusiak, who was a jw and an elder, and is a result of years of labourious work to compile quotes regarding every single doctrine the book describes.

  it covers the most important changes in years 1879—2015.

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  See also pages 31 and 32 of The Divine Plan of the Ages.

  http://www.ctrussell.us/ctrussell/ctrussell.nsf

  One theory regarding the creation (excepting man) by a process of evolution, to which we see no serious objection, we briefly state as follows: It assumes that the various species of the present are fixed and unchangeable so far as nature or kind is concerned, and though present natures may be developed to a much higher standard, even to perfection, these species or natures will forever be the same. This theory further assumes that none of these fixed species were originally created so, but that in the remote past they were developed from the earth, and by gradual processes of evolution from one form to another. These evolutions, under divinely established laws, in which changes of food and climate played an important part, may have continued until the fixed species, as at present seen, were established, beyond which change is impossible, the ultimate purpose of the Creator in this respect, to all appearance, having been reached. Though each of the various families of plants and animals is capable of improvement or of degradation, none of them is susceptible of change into, nor can they be produced from, other families or kinds. Though each of these may attain to the perfection of its own fixed nature, the Creator's design as to nature having been attained, further change in this respect is impossible.
  It is claimed that the original plants and animals, from which present fixed varieties came, became extinct before the creation of man. Skeletons and fossils of animals and plants which do not now exist, found deep below the earth's surface, favor this theory. This view neither ignores nor rejects the Bible teaching that man was a direct and perfect creation, made in the mental and moral image of his Maker, and not a development by a process of evolution, probably common to the remainder of creation. This view would in no sense invalidate, but would support, the Bible's claim, that nature as it is today teaches that an Intelligent Being ordered it, and was its first cause. Let human reason do her best to trace known facts to reasonable and competent causes, giving due credit to nature's laws in every case; but back of all the intricate machinery of nature is the hand of its great Author, the intelligent, omnipotent God.
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  Ever-changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses - probably the most comprehensive compendium about Watchtower doctrinal changes

  by WTS Archive in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two days ago a new book was released for download, called "ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses".

  it was originally written by a polish jw scholar (who never was a jw himself) włodzimierz bednarski, with a help from szymon matusiak, who was a jw and an elder, and is a result of years of labourious work to compile quotes regarding every single doctrine the book describes.

  it covers the most important changes in years 1879—2015.

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  See page 6 of The Photodrama of Creation for example, under the heading "The Fifth Day or Epoch".

  http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/photodrama/1914_Photodramascenario.pdf
  
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  Ever-changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses - probably the most comprehensive compendium about Watchtower doctrinal changes

  by WTS Archive in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two days ago a new book was released for download, called "ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses".

  it was originally written by a polish jw scholar (who never was a jw himself) włodzimierz bednarski, with a help from szymon matusiak, who was a jw and an elder, and is a result of years of labourious work to compile quotes regarding every single doctrine the book describes.

  it covers the most important changes in years 1879—2015.

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  Disappointed it doesn't seem to document changes in view about evolution. But it looks very informative.
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  Why a drop of over 3,700 publishers in the Democratic Republic of Congo?

  by freddo in

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  looking at the figures for 2014 to 2015 the numbers have dropped from 180,343 to 176,585.. any idea why?.

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  slimboyfat

  Steve! Have you ever been to the Congo? Has anyone? I've never been to the Congo.
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  Question about 1940s Watchtower history

  by slimboyfat in

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  i was studying this fascinating composite graph of jw growth.

  lots of interesting things there.

  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses#/media/file%3ajwstats1931-2015.png.

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  Rutherford can't have written Let God Be True since he died in 1942.

  But you raise an interesting point about the cut off for the anointed being moved from 1931 to 1935. I've never gotten to the bottom of why that changed or what the reason for either date really was.

  Some have pointed out that if they accepted mainstream Bible Chronology and Jerusalem fell 20 years later then they could say the Gentile Times ended in 1935. But since they've abandoned that date now there's no reason to fit it there. And even a "generation" from 1935 is now a bit of a stretch.