Well done, some of those quotes are really shocking. Especially the Awake! From 1995. I had never seen that before.
Is that Brokeback Mountain they're watching at the cinema?
slimboyfat
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New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality
by jwfacts ini have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!
2014 no.4 was the final straw.
there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry inthe universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
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slimboyfat
Why is there something rather than nothing?
The Question that won't go away.
There's something deeply mysterious at the heart of existence.
Ludwig Wittgenstein [...] wrote, in typically cryptic fashion, "Not how the world is, is the mystical, but that it is.
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There will be a Funeral service for Prince in the Kingdom Hall this sunday
by Farai inabout 30-50 high profile guests are expected among 300 other guests.
the kingdom hall has requested for support from the police for crowd/traffic control .
http://kstp.com/news/email-details-prince-funeral-minnetonka-jehovahs-witness-kindom-hall-police-traffic-crowd-control/4136002/http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/05/13/prince-memorial-scheduled/.
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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slimboyfat
There is a slim chance your dad might research these topics and agree with your doubts, but it's slim.
I wouldn't have advised talking about specific doubts. JWs just can't tolerate people expressing doubts. It's painful to their psyche. They speedily categorise everyone with doubts into either the "genuine doubter" who can be helped, and "apostate trouble maker" who is beyond help. When you're put in the latter category it's hard to ever climb out again. You know you are being given this label when they start firing questions like, "where did you get this information from?" and "do you trust the faithful slave?"
Rather than talking about doubts I'd recommend simply getting on with life. Make friends in school, study hard, develop hobbies, travel, gets jobs. Let all these things "interfere" with meetings and simply drift away. Less confrontation, less drama than the big "doubts" showdown. More beneficial for your overall wellbeing too, whichever way your parents choose to react.
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Type / Antitype article discredits many JW teachings
by Sanchy ini was going over the type / antitype articles that were released in last year's watchtower articles and i've just realized how ironic it is those very articles can serve to demolish some of the most fundamental jw teachings.. take for instance the "questions from readers" section of the march 15, 2015 magazine.
after mentioning some "far-fetched" interpretations that others have applied to bible events, they go on to say:.
if such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma.
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slimboyfat
In connection with this, it just occurred to me that they changed the words of "Stay Awake, Stand Firm, Grow Mighty" from "under Christ the greater Gideon" to "under him we firmly take our stand". I wonder if they were preparing to abolish superfluous typologies already in 2009, when the new song book came out. Is Gideon a Bible based typology? Maybe it's in Hebrews (the main source of typologies) I can't remember. I wonder if other typologies were abolished or survived into the new song book.
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Type / Antitype article discredits many JW teachings
by Sanchy ini was going over the type / antitype articles that were released in last year's watchtower articles and i've just realized how ironic it is those very articles can serve to demolish some of the most fundamental jw teachings.. take for instance the "questions from readers" section of the march 15, 2015 magazine.
after mentioning some "far-fetched" interpretations that others have applied to bible events, they go on to say:.
if such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma.
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slimboyfat
Remember the the Survival book? That was types and anti-types on steroids.
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Type / Antitype article discredits many JW teachings
by Sanchy ini was going over the type / antitype articles that were released in last year's watchtower articles and i've just realized how ironic it is those very articles can serve to demolish some of the most fundamental jw teachings.. take for instance the "questions from readers" section of the march 15, 2015 magazine.
after mentioning some "far-fetched" interpretations that others have applied to bible events, they go on to say:.
if such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma.
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slimboyfat
Washtowel Tractazine - ha! I actually laughed at that one!
Yeah their downer on anti-types totally undermines their Babylon 7 times chronology, 1914, and thereby undercuts their own authority. Oops. But probably few JWs notice or care.
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This is how to motivate inactive ones!
by stuckinarut2 ininteresting take on how to motivate inactive ones.... https://www.lds.org/youth/video/reaching-out-through-love?lang=eng.
it is interesting to compare and contrast witnesses and mormans....!.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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slimboyfat
Yes it's definitely bound up with secularisation, which is now rapidly underway in the United States.
Homophobia looks set to become a socially unacceptable view (like racism) rather than simply an eccentric minority view (like belief in Bigfoot for example).
That's not to say there won't always be a minority who cling to their homophobia, despite the change in society, just as there are still racists who express racist views in private and sometimes in public.
The point is that such views will no longer be accepted as legitimate discourse in the public sphere, at which point JWs and others will need to face a hard choice, just as the Mormon church did with their racism in the 1970s.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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slimboyfat
At the moment it would cause more problems than it would solve. But if trends continue, and say 90% plus of the general population support gay marriage, and around half of JWs, will that calculation change?
Between 2007 and 2015 alone, support for gay marriage rose from 46% to 60% in the general population, and acceptance of homosexuality among JWs rose from 12% to 16% between 2007 and 2014. Support for gay marriage stood at 14% among JWs in 2014. They have a way to go but the trend is in motion. That's not to say trends are inevitable, but at this point this trend appears likely to continue.