i may be alone here, but are you more interested in jw docrines, change of docrines, watchtowers, km's and othe jw publications now that you are an ex member as opposed to when you were a witness?.
i realised this the other day, when i was cleaning out a wardrobe and there was a "knowledge" book, i got so excited and read the whole thing, looking up scriptures as i went when they were quoted.
(this was accompanied by a soundtrack of consistant scoffs, snorts and "what the hells".?").
So you were never a witness? People that are worshippers of Jehovah love to study and do research.
Wholeweat, please read the OKM march 1994, p. 1, second article, par . 2 and you have an WBTS official answer how much JW love to study and do research. It says only a quater prepare for the meeting. Stop being a jerk and open your eyes.
hello, i'm doing some research, and i was wondering if the watchtower has had any legal action taken against it for mis-quoting someone (specifically the 1985 creation book), as this book especially is notorious for a few mis-quotes.
thanks for you're time.
The case of Olin Moyle can be of help. It's not really mis quote but Olin took them to court and winned the case.
Joe
hello, i'm doing some research, and i was wondering if the watchtower has had any legal action taken against it for mis-quoting someone (specifically the 1985 creation book), as this book especially is notorious for a few mis-quotes.
thanks for you're time.
Hello Dracula, welcome to this board. I don't know of any law suit but I remember reading in the book of Bill and Joan Cetnar (Questions for JW) That Prof. Mantley (?) treatened the WBTS for misquoting him in their NWT. The book included his letter.
Joe
as ex jws, we all know that the life of a jw is very stressing which unfortunately lead many to heart attacks.
among those, are elders, and regular pioneers, etc.
at the moment two cases come to my memory: a regular pioneer who was also part of the translation staff in malta (helen massa,which is mentioned in the yearbook 2000, p. 125) she is still alive.
As ex JWs, we all know that the life of a JW is very stressing which unfortunately lead many to HEART ATTACKS. Among those, are Elders, and Regular Pioneers, etc. At the moment two cases come to my memory: A Regular Pioneer who was also part of the Translation staff in Malta (Helen Massa,which is mentioned in the Yearbook 2000, p. 125) she is still alive. And an Elder, France-Sydney Fenech, who was also part of the Assembly Committee and a memer of the HLC. Many others where complaining with chest pain, including myself.
Do you know of any cases? (Another way of sacrificing people on the WATCHTOWER ALTAR!!!)
Joe
is anyone familiar with the gilead instructors:.
liverance, bowen, noumair, and karl adams.
In the Awake! 1984 11/22, pp. 19-20, you find some information on MARK NOUMAR:
Graduated from the 77th class of Gilead, married to Patricia, as business he was in JANITORIAL SERVICE, served in Africa.
In brief only "qualifications" for Jehovah's Witnesses Schools.
Joe
many are those of us here who often ask who's who in the wbts.
to simplify things it would be a good idea if a volunteer would create a web site specificaly with this aim.
it could lead also for a book.. if one needs to consult the biography of don adams, joel adams, karl adams, etc., this site would furnish the answer.
What I meant was to include ALL top WBTS people all over the world. (all branch committees, District Overseers, Circuit Overseers, their Lawyers,) lets get organised and produce a good job. Many information already exist, it just only need to be compiled. When journalists or other researchers need to know Who's Who in the WBTS this new site can become their source.
Joe
many are those of us here who often ask who's who in the wbts.
to simplify things it would be a good idea if a volunteer would create a web site specificaly with this aim.
it could lead also for a book.. if one needs to consult the biography of don adams, joel adams, karl adams, etc., this site would furnish the answer.
Many are those of us here who often ask who's who in the WBTS. To simplify things it would be a good idea if a volunteer would create a web site specificaly with this aim. It could lead also for a book.
If one needs to consult the biography of Don Adams, Joel Adams, Karl Adams, etc., this site would furnish the answer. Any volunteer or comments?
Joe
jw in france were asked by the court to pay the tax in dew which since 1998 they been contesting.. joe.
le parisien , 1er mars 2002 .
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Here's what JW had to say on the issue (perhaps somebody can translate it)
Joe
Communiqué du consistoire national
- 28 février 2002 -
Ce jeudi 28 février 2002, la Cour d'appel de Versailles vient de confirmer une mesure de l'administration fiscale visant à taxer, rétroactivement, à hauteur de 60 %, les offrandes perçues par l'association religieuse des Témoins de Jéhovah.
Cette taxe réclamée par l'administration est colossale. Outre qu'elle génère un endettement inextricable pour une association religieuse centenaire, elle confisque le soutien financier apporté par quelque 250 000 fidèles.
Pourtant, l'administration fiscale a retenu le caractère non lucratif et la gestion désintéressée de l'Association " Les Témoins de Jéhovah ". Les seules ressources de l'association étant les offrandes des fidèles, il reste à savoir si les offrandes recueillies pour acquitter cette taxe seront à leur tour imposées à hauteur de 60 %*. Chacun mesurera le grotesque de la situation.
Doit-on désormais parler, en France, d'" excommunication fiscale " ? Devant l'extrême émotion suscitée par la décision de la Cour d'appel de Versailles, le Consistoire des Témoins de Jéhovah, présidé par Jean-Marie Bockaert, craint qu'un tel arrêt, s'il devait être confirmé, constitue une lourde menace pour la liberté religieuse et une entrave sérieuse à la vie associative en France.
Fidèles à leur foi chrétienne, les Témoins de Jéhovah continueront de rendre un culte à Dieu.
' Si cette œuvre vient des hommes, elle sera renversée ;
mais si elle vient de Dieu, vous ne pourrez pas la renverser. '
Actes des Apôtres, chapitre 5, versets 38 et 39.
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Note
* Si cela devait être le cas, cela signifierait que pour régler les 45 millions d'euros (300 millions de francs) réclamés, l'association devrait réunir 112,5 millions d'euros (750 millions de francs) d'offrandes, à leur tour taxables à hauteur de 60 % !
jw in france were asked by the court to pay the tax in dew which since 1998 they been contesting.. joe.
le parisien , 1er mars 2002 .
[texte integral.
Ireland, thanks for the translation.
Joe
jw in france were asked by the court to pay the tax in dew which since 1998 they been contesting.. joe.
le parisien , 1er mars 2002 .
[texte integral.
JW in France were asked by the court to pay the tax in dew which since 1998 they been contesting.
Joe
Le Parisien , 1er mars 2002
[Texte intégral
La Cour d'appel de Versailles a confirmé hier le redressement fiscal infligé aux Témoins de Jéhovah.
Les juges ont donné raison à l'administration fiscale qui leur réclame, depuis 1998, 45 millions d'euros (295 MF). Cette somme colossale correspond à un impôt de 60 % sur les dons et offrandes des fidèles que doivent acquitter les associations non reconnues comme cultuelles, comme c'est le cas des Témoins de Jéhovah, répertoriés comme une secte apocalyptique.
Un « tel arrêt, s'il devait être confirmé », constituerait « une lourde menace pour la liberté religieuse », ont protesté les Témoins de Jéhovah .
