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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

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  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  Gday Listener,

  The SdAs don't dissfellowship your right about that but to many peoples dissmay Dr Ford lost his job and after that happened and I quote 'It doesn't pay to be right too early in the game"

  The other theologans including Cottrell faired well.

  Des got a job in an independant ministry 'Good News Unlimited' but is still invited to SDA churches to speak such as the one above. Some SDAs are poles apart with him on theology but still have respect for him as a christian brother others regard him as total apostate while the lunatic fringe accuse him of being a Catholic Jesuit infiltrator.

  It depends on what faction the SDA member is in as to there support or dissaproval of a particular person and their theology.
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  Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?

  by smiddy in

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  islam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .

  christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.

  stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .

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  This is moderate Islam.

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjo70wm4Oc
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  Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?

  by smiddy in

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  islam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .

  christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.

  stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .

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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

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  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  Here is a video of Dr Ford at an American church I believe its a university church SDA . Dr Ford is the same as the one mentioned in the WT artical above well respected by many but by some is regarded as an apostate.

  Dr Ford talks about Historicism a very faulty method of understanding biblical prophecy now only used by Adventists and Jehovahs witnesses. Dr Ford also mentioned the 27 scholars that rejected the SDA explanation of daniel 8.14 also mentioned in the WT artical above he also refers to himself as a rebel Adventist. The sermon also gives an excellent presentation of the gospel.

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_pR_d3TkWs
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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  Thanks Nebeska,

  Thats a good artical by the WT society but it doesn't go far enough in detail. The WT society may be doing this for their own ends but one of the main reasons the investigative judgement doctrine is questioned is because of its conflict with the gospel of grace. Also desmond Ford mentioned in the artical endorsed Raymond Franz book which is also not mentioned. The day for a year principle is questioned by bible scholars also but is accepted as truth by the WT society
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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  I would like to see this artical being a former Adventist the Investigative Judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844

  From what I have read this artical by the WT also mentions SDA scholars that have theological problems with the Investigative Judgement and many Adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the SDA main beliefs

  Barry
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  Are Seventh-Day Adventists a better Church to belong to than being a JW

  by jwfacts in

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  a lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?

  " and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.

  doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.

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  Here is a video of a traditional SDA comments about the SDA doctrine of the investigative judgement which is sort of like the 1914 JW doctrine. He shows a video of Desmond Ford a contempory of Ray Franz. Please note Desmond Ford is speaking in a SDA church 28 years after his sacking. I believe it is a university church. Des is an evangelical as you might think and he has a good theology in my opinion. Des is also regarded as an apostate by some SDAs

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4V370cJUkY
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  An asteroid is coming in 2036

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  a friend of mine who is a astronomer told me a asteroid will hit the earth near ca in 2036. it will make a close pass by earth in 2029 and if it goes through a certain point he called a donut hole it will come back and get us in 2036. i asked him if it is big enough to cause problems?

  he laugh and said it is extinction asteroid.

  he went on to say the russians are already working on a plan to destroy it before in makes it here or try and change the course of it.

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  The best way to sav our planet from this asteroid is to park a spacecraft right next to it and then use gravity to change its orbit. It is only necessary to change its orbit a miniscule amount to avoid colision with the earth.

  Blowing it up may put the asteroid into the earths path and not have the desired effect
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  Do you think US Dollar will collapse on July 1st?

  by Iamallcool in

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  if you do not know what i am talking about, google about it.

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  The dollar dropping is not a problem it makes exports more attractive to the rest of the world increases jobs and helps to restore any balance of payments problems

  Here in Australia the government is trying its best to got our dollar to drop by reducing interest rates to no avail.
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  Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts

  by bohm in

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  the collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in west antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported monday.. the finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable.

  the rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.. this is really happening, said thomas p. wagner, who runs nasas programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.

  theres nothing to stop it now.

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  Ice in the antarctic has increased substantually so maybe that will offset the melting ice in the arctic.