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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  barry

  The LDS church is a cult.

  The LDS invited me to their church a while ago. The missionarys told me there was a great apostacy in the early church and expected me to believe a glib statement such as this. If there was an apostacy when did it occur . Was it after Jesus left for heaven, was it after or before the complete bible was decided and the trinity doctrine was decided in about 370ad [the mormons don't believe in the trinity]., or when it was when the roman church reached its full power and influence? Or was it at just the time that LSD apologists happen to dissagree with the church fathers.

  The missionarys asked me to kneel down and pray that that I would accept Joseph as the prophet of god sort of like the Muslims accepting their prophet . It should be noted there have allways been people claiming to have the gift of prophesy in the christian church from the earliest times to now. I recall at the time of Ireaneous prophets were numerous. Barry
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  What a great first Christmas!

  by dazed but not confused in

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  2. friends

  what a great day!.

  once the kids were in bed, i set up my daughters new kitchen play set took me a little over 2 hours but was fun.

  this morning we came down stairs and the joy on my kids faces and the wow!

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  barry

  Gday dazed, you celebrate xmas better than most . jWe are very casual about xmas we don't have even a xmas tree up or presents for xmas because whats the point when our kids know we put them there and not Santa Clause. Of course we go to the church for xmas services and what a wonderful gift to the world the lord jesus . All the thoughts of a baby be it youre own child comming into the world or the lord jesus when god for the first time connected with man is time stopping event in human history. Barry
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  New video of interviews with Famous active and former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have put together a mash up of active and former jehovah's witnesses, including a number of interesting interviews.. http://youtu.be/ozwvh57erro.

  as a side note, i hope it does not get removed for copyright violation, as software automatically scans for pieces of music and i have already received some violation messages.

  the video does comply with fair usage laws, as the music is relevant to the commentary..

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  barry

  Gday Jwfacts,

  Prince went to a black SDA church and they are usually more conservative than the white churches. The ministers in black churches usually have robes which adds to their authority.

  Maybe Prince looked to the SDA church as a whole and realised there was much division. This by itself may have made the witnesses a more attractive option. I general a more cultic religion is attractive because the need to think for oneself is unnecessary.

  The similarities between the witnesses and the SDAs is the historisist interpretation of biblical prophesies and both are pre millienial. The historisist interpretations in th eSDAs are being challlenged and from the 1980 on some doctrines were being chalenged by well known SDAs which is not good for cultic thinking. People start to feel insecure with differing opinions.

  Pre millenialism was not taught in the 18 century as most people believed the world would get better and better and then after the millenial jesus would come. People like miller held to the belief that the world would get worse and jesus would come a belief held by most churches now.

  Just a few thoughts jwfacts
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  New video of interviews with Famous active and former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have put together a mash up of active and former jehovah's witnesses, including a number of interesting interviews.. http://youtu.be/ozwvh57erro.

  as a side note, i hope it does not get removed for copyright violation, as software automatically scans for pieces of music and i have already received some violation messages.

  the video does comply with fair usage laws, as the music is relevant to the commentary..

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  barry

  www.atoday.org/article/1820/news/april/rock-star-prince-new-book-suggests-his-music-is-rooted-in-adventist-faith-and-upbringing
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  Lawyers: Can a Jehovah's Witness sue the Watchtower Society for Civil Rights violations?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been on boards and run businesses, and been reminded by more than one cpa and attorney to cross ts and dot i s regarding corporate requirements or we would become liable to lawsuits.. therefore, my questions to any attorneys and cpas, and the keen minds on this board, are the following;.

  i have been reading old threads on this site about watchtower society irregularities regarding tax filings with state and federal agencies.

  evidently, a number of filings for different years were identical (unlikely if not impossible) or missing.

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  New video of interviews with Famous active and former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have put together a mash up of active and former jehovah's witnesses, including a number of interesting interviews.. http://youtu.be/ozwvh57erro.

  as a side note, i hope it does not get removed for copyright violation, as software automatically scans for pieces of music and i have already received some violation messages.

  the video does comply with fair usage laws, as the music is relevant to the commentary..

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  barry

  Prince was a Seventh Day Adventist but became a Jehovahs witness in 2001
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  Christmas Field Service

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on another thread, i read that a few adherents may be traveling (cough-cough) to other cities and wouldn't be able to make field service on christmas day.. what is the likelihood that going out on christmas will be encouraged at the weekend services at the khs?

  ...or do most halls stay neutral on this?

  given what i've read on this forum, i have the impression that disrespecting a day of other's celebration wouldn't be discouraged which annoys the heck out of me..

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  maybe the WT society should organise groups to go door to door singing christmas carols on christmas day. That would be a good variation and also other christian groups do that anywayand it wouldn't be offensive to anyone.
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  barry

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1yToXhFvgo
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  barry

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ac_fLUHiBw
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  barry