Posts by moomanchu

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Jehovah's Witnesses Nabbed After Killing Spree in Russia

by DazedAndConfused in

jehovah's witnesses nabbed after killing spree in russia.

two jehovahs witnesses have been arrested in russia as suspected serial killers who claim they went on a nine-month killing spree to cleanse the world of sinners, the daily mail newspaper reported on thursday.. vladimir gurianov, 44, and elvira egorycheva, 46, are accused of killing 13 people while claming to be on a mission from god.. egorycheva had a revolver, two axes, a rope and an electric-shock device when the pair was seen in a suburban supermarket and arrested after their pictures had been circulated throughout the region.

gurianov had a gun and a knife in his jacket, the newspaper reported.. the two met at a jehovahs witness meeting 16 years ago and reunited late last year before embarking on their alleged murderous rampage.

moomanchu

oldhippie you stated,

So the only JW connection is that they visited a meeting 16 years ago

How do you know this?

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Which Governing body member will die next?? Will things change?

by Witness 007 in

i will review this post when it happens so.....prophecy time!

who will guess correct!

my $50 is on theodore jarc born in 1925?

moomanchu

The GB and the annnointed could show love for their fellow man, hasten armaggedon and usher in the paradise just by simply dieing.

The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the one.

WWJD ? lol

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what does the 11/2008 WT say about rounding up faders?

by halcyon in

i read this in another post, and since i haven't been reading wt for years, and if there was an original post i didnt' see it.

i'm scared.

are they officially coming after long-time faders now?

moomanchu

We must keep in mind that the individual continues to be our spiritual brother.

If we need to control the individual then they are our brother.

If we need something the individual has money, talent, skill ect. then they are our brother.

If the individual does something that makes the WT look bad,

weeeeeeeeeeeeell they were really never our brother or a JW.

Yay WT can't lose yay yay !!!

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Jehovah's Witnesses Nabbed After Killing Spree in Russia

by DazedAndConfused in

jehovah's witnesses nabbed after killing spree in russia.

two jehovahs witnesses have been arrested in russia as suspected serial killers who claim they went on a nine-month killing spree to cleanse the world of sinners, the daily mail newspaper reported on thursday.. vladimir gurianov, 44, and elvira egorycheva, 46, are accused of killing 13 people while claming to be on a mission from god.. egorycheva had a revolver, two axes, a rope and an electric-shock device when the pair was seen in a suburban supermarket and arrested after their pictures had been circulated throughout the region.

gurianov had a gun and a knife in his jacket, the newspaper reported.. the two met at a jehovahs witness meeting 16 years ago and reunited late last year before embarking on their alleged murderous rampage.

moomanchu

So the only JW connection is that they visited a meeting 16 years ago

oldhippie,

You might want to reread this and change your comment.

Gurianov - who locals said had 'mad eyes' - and Egorycheva first met at a Jehovah's Witnesses sect meeting 16 years ago.

When they were reunited late last year, Egorycheva allegedly told him she had a vision and they must travel to the Volga region to carry out God's wishes.

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HELLO, I'M NEW AND.........

by billie jean in

i never believed a word of any of it !.

raised a j.w from birth, i'd sit in the meetings and at conventions wondering what the hell it was all about and that it was all one big joke and imagine that they''d all suddenly turn around laughing and pointing at me !!

saying something like "haha the joke's on you".

moomanchu

Welcome to the forum billy.

I was born into the religion also.

A childs innate instinct is to trust their parents, relatives and elders. They betrayed our trust.

I also hate the f*****g feligion.

moomanchu

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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE WT STUDY 09-07-08 (HOUSE TO HOUSE MINISTR

by Mary in

" (this would harmonize with matt 10:9 that tells them not to take any money with them).

" the interpretation of the acts of the apostles, 1961, pp.120-21.

it became evident, however, that further personal training in the house-to-house ministry was needed.

moomanchu

Great commentary thanks.

I'd love to tell a jaydub "why don't you go back to the bottomless pit from where you came from and serve your king Abaddon. "

Rev 9: 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth.

11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

This sums up the Jaydubs preaching work

Mathew 23: 13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 15 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

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What I Learned from Bro Lett's DC Talk

by Rohag in

what i learned/derived from steven lett's dc talk (thanks again, ynot, for providing access to the .mp3 files!).

brother lett - or the committee that produced the talk - really loves food metaphors.well-dressed people, especially children, produce a good witness.if you're an apostate, chances are bad conduct/secret sin/moral depravity made you that way.

apostasy is usually founded on sin and rarely on conviction.the bible is an insufficient - or overly cumbersome - guide to godly conduct.

moomanchu

Jesus was an apostate of the Jewish religion.

I am an apostate of the Wacktower religion.

Monkey see monkey do.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-17-08 WT Study (PURSUE)

by blondie in

jw
friends

comments you will not hear at the 08-17-08 wt study (june 15, 2008, pages 11-15)(pursue).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

moomanchu

Jesus knew that his followers would face hatred from unbelieving relatives

The only hatred that happens is the hatred of the JW towards the unbeliever of the WTS.

No one enjoys being accused of something he has not said or done.

You mean like being called .........................

apostate
antichrist you are the antichrist (part of the composite)........ didn't know this
man of lawlessnes you are the man of lawlessnes (part of the composite)
son of destruction you are the son of destruction (part of the composite)
satan you are a satan (someone who is set against God and therefore is a satan).....didn't know this
lawless men
oppresive wolves
wolf like men
false teachers
false prophets
resisters
defectors
hypocrites
rebels
back sliders
immitation christians
wicked
wicked opposers of God
wicked class of persons
sons of the wicked one
misled by demons
sinners against the Holy Spirit
those having their consciences seared
men who speak lies
sect creaters
fallen away from the truth
not accepting the love of the truth
pleasure seekers
loose
worldly
materialistic
Jezebel
Judahs's
field of thorns and thistles

having an increased share in the preaching work. That will likely produce in us a deep happiness.

Yes, yes the preaching work, the panacea to all mankinds problems.

JW's look so miserable because their happiness is sooooo deeeeep. LOL

Thanks blondie

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Watchtower CLUB Society.....

by justhuman in

jw
friends

this is actually wt's real name.

wt has become actually a social club and nothing more.

jws are in a "religious" club with activities that includes picnics, staying in hotels(assembley) going out for leasure, excursions in the "holy land- brooklyn".

moomanchu

Definitely a social club for older retired dubs.

My parents and my inlaws and other older relatives wouldn't know what to do with themselves without the meetings.

Dinners, cute babies, respect as an older faithful one, family members are usually there, and all the friends, oh boy, oh boy!

I think they are actually disappointed the book study was consolidated.

They are clueless as far as the bible and the jw doctrine mix.

Hey, who cares the fds tell us everything we need to know.

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If you want to leave the truth, just walk away!

by moomanchu in

a close relative recently called me verbatim, "a bad, bad, bad apostate and a sinner against the holy spirit" .. the apostate remark didn't bother me, actually it's a compliment when you think about it.. saying i was a "sinner against the holy spirit" that did bother me.

this got me to wondering about all the names, accusations and labels given to people who don't want to be a jw anymore.. doing a quick search in the insight books i came up with a list.. apostates pg.126, antichrist pg.116, man of lawlessnes pg.

310, resurrection - sinning against the holy spirit pg.

moomanchu

Honesty
Those who fight Jehovah’s visible organization, upon which his spirit is manifest, sin against the holy spirit, unforgivably so.

That's just f'ed up !

Mainstream Christianity teaches that the Pharisees attributed Jesus' healing to Satan's power rather than to the Holy spirit.
The unforgiveable sin was - attributing to Satan Christ's authenticating miracles done in the the power of the Holy Spirit.

Makes sense to me.

Mathew 12

Jesus and Beelzebub

22 Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23 All the people were astonished and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"

24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub,the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons."

25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

29 "Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.

30 "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

33 "Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

Mark 3

Jesus and Beelzebub

20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind."

22 And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub ! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons."

23 So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can rob his house. 28 I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. 29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."

30 He said this because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit."

willyloman
those of us who leave for reasons of conscience

I don't think I've ever heard this given as the reason for a disfellowshipping, but yet there are many out there who have done this.

Preston
Texman55
If you don't like being a JW just leave....
And yep, just walk away, stop going is the best idea. Don't argue, dont' justify, don't debate. Dont play by their fucked up rules, they're all stacked against you. Just leave and ignore all the hoorah. If you can.

This is what I did. However the harrasment never ends because of family, and who wants to have their name dragged threw the mud with all these derogatory stereotypes the WT gives anyone who leaves. It's just another tactic the WT uses to keep people from jumping ship.

The Dandroid
Surely if you cant marry at 15, you shouldnt be allowed to get baptized into something that will ultimately affect the rest of your life?

Welcome to the board The Dandroid

Excellent point, I remember reading or hearing from the WT that baptism is the most important decision of your life.

Guess that's why Jesus waited till he was 30.