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  reproved but my elder dad and spiritual mum keep me at a far distants still

  by pauledwards in

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  willyloman

  You are right in what you say. What I could not understand is if you are repentant why do you lose certain "privileges" like answering up?

  Why is not all forgiven ?
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  Need Advice - Anyone in a divided (faith) household?

  by lovelylil in

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  if anyone else out there is in a divided faith household, may i ask how it affects your relationship?

  i am sorting trying to figure things out within my marriage as far as faith issues.

  here is the background.. i was never a conventional jw.

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  But I feel bad because I know he left the tower because of me and if I knew he would be lost spiritually, I would have recomended that he stay

  Dont confuse spirituality and "marking" your WT or going out on FS. It takes some people years to find themselves spiritually, Id leave him to get on with and not worry !
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  court case

  by ellderwho in

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  http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20070125.html.

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  interesting overturn of a case brought by the dubs.

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  This was a really interesting article, I thought the comments on the discussion board were good too. Maybe if more commented it would have a positive impact and understanding on how the WT works on any legal team, when they have to defend abuse cases

  There will be a breakthrough in cases of abuse its a matter of when not if.
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  Man and woman--together again at last (androgynously speaking)

  by onacruse in

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  1881: tabernacle shadows p. 100-1. .

  but the human female was originally a part of the man made in gods image, and is still (although temporarily separate for the purposes of human propagation) a part of the man-neither being complete alone.

  as the perfect man was named adam, so, when made twain, "god called their name adam"-the headship remaining with the male, who was thus made the caretaker or preserver of the female as a part of his own body.

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  Our dear Redeemer, when he was "the man Christ Jesus," was probably neither coarse and brawny nor effeminate. In him the mental strength and a grandeur of manhood blended most delightfully with the noble purity, tenderness and grace of true womanhood

  Who the hell wrote this...........it is sickning .........................".grandeur of manhood"..............they were all of their heads
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses Lose Court Battle to Suppress Freedom of Speech

  by Dogpatch in

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  http://www.silentlambs.org/denmarklawsuit.htm.

  [see more information at the link above] .

  jehovahs witnesses lose court battle to suppress freedom of speech.

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  At last some good news from the courts.......................

  Unfortunately 50,000 kroner isnt that much , its about £3,500 I dont know what that is in us dollars

  But anyway the money isnt the point, its the winning that counts.

  I think europe has a different approach to religious cases than the US seems to have. The Us seem to be very reluctant to get involved and always go on the religions side !!!!!!!!!!!
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  Did the Society’s Literature Ever Make You Question or Doubt It?

  by The wanderer in

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  <!-- .style1 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style2 { font-size: 18px; font-family: georgia, "times new roman", times, serif; color: #005959; } .style3 { font-size: 16px; font-family: georgia, "times new roman", times, serif; color: #005959; } --> did the societys literature ever make you question or doubt it?think back to when you thought like a jehovahs witness.

  do you ever recall when a magazine, book, pamphlet or tract made you start to question .

  or doubt the written material?

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  I had doubts about the revelation book but because it said at the beginning of the book that it wasnt infallible , I thought I would just have to have faith

  Then came along the Isaiah book.......................what a crock. The ships of Kitish (sp) come to mind. I even said to my witness sister that it was crap. I would never say that now though or shed be onto me :)

  I think it was that book that put real doubt in my mind but as usual I put the doubts to the back of my mind.
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  Did feel that you were at a mental breaking point at the point of leaving?

  by jambon1 in

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  prior to you leaving the org did you come to the conclusion that if you didnt actually take the step and leave, that you would run into serious mental difficulty.. i really feel that for 5 years proir to my finally leaving i was quite impaired mentally by the teachings and practices of the org.

  it was coming to a head though when i finally announced that i was leaving.

  i really felt that i was under intense mental pressure and that if i didnt get out then i may end up doing something serious.

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  Billsfan23 said

  I am in passive mode now - I don't refuse anything, but don't volunteer for anything now either. I am a total slacker in the hall now - although I am still regular at the meetings, I don't do a whole lot. It keeps the peace in the house until the kids are a little older, then I will be more forthright with my "fade"

  I dont know how old your children are now, but if I had my way again, Id get out while my children were still small. My daughter is now locked in to the legacy of the org that I left her. Please dont let your children grown up in the org. For their sakes get out now
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  i take some C.O. for a hour and half ride

  by johnny cip in

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  (not telling where) into an hour and half conversation.

  he knew his aposatate stuff.

  it was heavy.

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  I think he means applause !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Has the Internet changed your life?

  by Fisherman in

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  information at my finger tips.

  no one can have the upper hand on me beccause of information.

  medicine.

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  Yes. I keep ordering books that peeps on forums like this recommend My JW daughter thinks im constantly on chat sites, which is not true, it has changed my life it opened up a secret world I didnt know about, the world were JWs left the "truth" for other reasons than being wicked
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  Guess the Sexist

  by Deputy Dog in

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  who wrote: it is generally admitted that with woman the powers of intuition, of rapid perception, and perhaps of imitation, are more strongly marked than in man; but some, at least, of these faculties are characteristic of the lower races, and therefore of a past and lower state of civilisation.

  the chief distinction in the intellectual powers of the two sexes is shewn by man's attaining to a higher eminence, in whatever he takes up, than can woman- whether requiring deep thought, reason, or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands.

  if two lists were made of the most eminent men and women in poetry, painting, sculpture, music (inclusive both of composition and performance), history, science, and philosophy, with half-a-dozen names under each subject, the two lists would not bear comparison.

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  Taze Russell