I would stay away from that Kingdom stuff if I was you. It's full of demonz. When I was a teenager, I would visit a friend in another congregation. I made it my practice to "sing praises" as Bob Dylan. It was fun just to crack him up. (Oh what crazy kids we were...sigh) I remember some of the adults nearby liked it as well. Perhaps they were secretly upset all creativity left with the piano.
bavman
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Covering Kingdom Music
by professor inhas anyone ever tried to release covers of kingdom music?
generally, i'm thinking you have to have the artist's permission.
but what if you change it a little?
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Wild Gorrillas Using Tools
by bavman in.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/0930_050930_gorilla_tool.html
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Watchtower deception about JW divorce rates.
by jwfacts inthere was a statement in a 1997 awake that i see people quoting on the internet that is trying to imply 4.9% of jws are divorced compared to half of worldly people.
i have found some statistics that prove that this is quite a deception.
awake 1997 september 8 p.11 a people taught to love.
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bavman
My experience among JW's was there is no real difference between them and the rest of the world as regards divorce rates. One other thing these surveys don't take into account is the fact of those who would have been asked about whether they were divorced or not many are no longer JW's. They are never asked. I believe that is different among religions not practicing shunning.
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Rutherford makes a good point
by carla ini just received the millions reprint book.
i actually found something i agree with!.
error always seeks the dark, while truth is always enhanced by the light.
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bavman
The interesting thing is Carla, the WTBS still makes statements similar to what Rutherford made back then. They simply don't allow THEMSELVES to be investigated. Of course, they would say but, 'you have the choice. You can go wherever you like.' However, along with choosing to go elsewhere you have to choose to be shunned by family and friends. I ask, is that really a choice? I don't think it is. It's emotional blackmail. I find their statements (such as Rutherford's and what you may read now) to be hypocritical.
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YOUNG PEOPLE ASK - HOW SHOULD I DEAL WITH MY DOUBTS 01/04/2002
by diamondblue1974 inyoung people ask - how should i deal with my doubts?
awake: april 2002. .
we live in a world of many philosophies and many world views and young christians might be tempted to have doubts about the loving guidance set out by the faithful and discreet slave.
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bavman
That's funny, when I went to the elders about the U.N. they laughed and promised to get back to me on it. They never did get back to me...
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1914 Has Been Strongly Re-emphasized ( Oct 1 WT)
by metatron into all you people who naively think that the geezers at watchtower central are slacking off.
from 1914, i've got bad news:.
they are emphasizing it strongly, as if to quell any thoughts about its abandonment.. the oct 1 watchtower with the cover "do you recognize the sign?
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bavman
I don't think 1914 is necessary for them to get rid of. Of course, I would like to see them do it but it mostly only bothers those who remember prophecies of the past that failed such as the "generation" debacle. To illustrate my point that it doesn't really hurt them so much I have a quote from the Adventists down below. Seems to me 1844 is even farther back than 1914. Some Christians I have heard say Pentecost 33 C.E. was the start of the last days. Therefore, who cares?
24. Christ's Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary:
There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf, making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered once for all on the cross. He was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent. (Heb. 8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22; 1:3; 2:16, 17; Dan. 7:9-27; 8:13, 14; 9:24-27; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6; Lev. 16; Rev. 14:6, 7; 20:12; 14:12; 22:12.)25. The Second Coming of Christ:
The second coming of Christ is the blessed hope of the church, the grand climax of the gospel. The Saviour's coming will be literal, personal, visible, and worldwide. When He returns, the righteous dead will be resurrected, and together with the righteous living will be glorified and taken to heaven, but the unrighteous will die. The almost complete fulfillment of most lines of prophecy, together with the present condition of the world, indicates that Christ's coming is imminent. The time of that event has not been revealed, and we are therefore exhorted to be ready at all times. (Titus 2:13; Heb. 9:28; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; Matt. 24:14; Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:43, 44; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2:8; Rev. 14:14-20; 19:11-21; Matt. 24; Mark 13; Luke 21; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; 1 Thess. 5:1-6.) -
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lyman swingle... tape recording... death.... farkel
by Cygnus inresponding to an old post of mine regarding jw funerals, farkel wrote:.
"but here is the problem: i have a tape recording of governing body member lyman swingle's funeral.
it was five-odd minutes of bible discussion about the hope of the resurrection for second class wt citizens and immortality in heaven for first-class wt citizens, and a full forty minutes of eulogy and anecdotes about swingle.".
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bavman
Funny...no other Witnesses get that long of an eulogy at their funerals.
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Scandal: Local Witness Is Traffic Warden!
by ballistic in.
i can't believe this guy goes round slapping parking tickets on people's cars by day and slapping "you can live forever" leaflets through people's doors at the weekend.. it would be funny if he got mixed up one day and started booking people with messages of a paradise earth.. well, i guess jesus loved tax collectors too.
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bavman
LMAO Professor! Looks like an old school teacher dub I use to know.
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bavman
Welcome Mr. Blue and nice meeting you last night!
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New member of the Governing Body from Australia
by jwfacts injeff jackson has just been appointed to the gb.
he is a family friend from tasmania, a little island at the bottom of australia.
he is about 50 and claimed to be annointed when i think he was in his late 30's, as a great shock to everyone.
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bavman
Exactly, the blood issue not being mentioned in something like the Worship book is deceitful. As I recall it isn't mentioned very much in the Knowledge book either. But then most of the doctrines now are barely talked about ahead of time. I wonder about the new OM book?