It's part of the post-personal world of the internet, or at least people who are rather naive about the structure and how it might be best used. My guess is they are not particularly seen as people even if the profiles has their real name on it. Check out the quote I just posted in the Facebook thread..
Markfromcali
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'Hello': NO! 'Farmville': YES
by Lady Viola infarmville is a very popular facebook game everywhere, also in the netherlands.
i personally hate it, so i ignore every object that fb friends wants to sell to me.
but i have noticed lately that active jw's, even the very serious ones, play farmville with disfellowshipped persons.
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What's the deal with Facebook?
by serenitynow! ini mean what is so fun or interesting about facebook?
i am very new to it, i feel like i must be missing something.
it seems boring.
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Markfromcali
Another quote from Jaron Laniers manifesto, You Are Not A Gadget:
Facebook is like No Child Left Behind
Personal reductionism has always been present in information systems. You have to declare your status in reductive ways when you file a tax return. Your real life is represented by a silly, phony set of database entries in order for you to make use of a service in an approximate way. Most people are aware of the difference between reality and database entries when they file taxes.
But the order is reversed when you perform the same kind of self-reduction in order to create a profile on a social networking site. You fill in the data: profession, marital status, and residence. But in this case digital reduction becomes a causal element, mediating contact between new friends. That is new. It used to be that government was famous for being impersonal, but in a postpersonal world, that will no longer be a distinction.
It might at first seem that the experience of youth is now sharply divided between the old world of school and parents, and the new world of social networking on the internet, but actually school now belongs on the new side of the ledger. Education has gone through a parallel transformation, and for similar reasons.
What computerized analysis of all the country's school tests has done to education is exactly what Facebook has done to friendships. In both cases, life is turned into a database. Both degradations are based on the same philosophical mistake, which is the belief that computers can presently represent human thought or human relationships. These are things computers cannot currently do.
When it comes to people, we technologists must use a completely different methodology. We don't understand the brain well enough to comprehend phenomena like education or friendship on a scientific basis. So when we deploy a computer model of something like learning or friendship in a way that has an effect on real lives, we are relying on faith. When we ask people to live their lives through our models, we are potentially reducing life itself. How can we ever know what we might be losing?
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Are you accomplishing creatively what you wish?
by compound complex in.
i'm looking for a response to a question overlooked on another thread .... a friend just wrote to say that one does not need to be the sequoia in the forest, this after a mutual lament that we cannot accomplish creatively all that we aspire to .... your thoughts?.
coco.
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Markfromcali
It just occurred to me the other day that creativity does not have to be expressed in artistic works. Sometimes the imaginative quality of creativity comes out as humor, which can arise spontaneously in everyday situations although it may be brief. I've noticed that the joke is sometimes a preconscious thing, but after it comes out I can look back and fully appreciate the nuances of the meaning - and of course we get a laugh even if we don't think about it.
I would guess this kind of natural expression is more likely to come about in an environment where there are no specific expectations. So I don't know that I have anything specific I want to accomplish in a creative way, but I think we can all use more of this openness in the first place, and I would like to see that in everything across the board.
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So am about to take a shower...
by sabastious in...and i see this ant on my floor with another ant (dead) in his mouth and he's carrying him across my floor.. ?.
-sab.
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Markfromcali
That's like this time I had a spider facing me rubbing his front legs together..
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Markfromcali
This thread reminds me of this guy, you guys know Gabriel Iglesias?
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P90x
by megaflower infor any of you who may doubt this fitness routine, it is for real.
iam in my 6th week(phase 2) and i have never felt of looked better.
i was fit before p90x (ran 4-5 miles, kayaked, weight training etc), but this program has allowed me to break through the wall.
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Markfromcali
After all that, I guess all that needs to be said is CF does not involve JUST aerobic stuff, but strictly aerobic exercise seems to be what helps with brain benefits like more BDNF.
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P90x
by megaflower infor any of you who may doubt this fitness routine, it is for real.
iam in my 6th week(phase 2) and i have never felt of looked better.
i was fit before p90x (ran 4-5 miles, kayaked, weight training etc), but this program has allowed me to break through the wall.
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Markfromcali
Mark, buddy... you're still implying that CF (or the like) is only anaerobic and I don't believe that's the case.
Actually, me neither! I understand what you're saying, I'm just trying to put it in context of the research I've come across. The thing is chances are the researchers idea of anaerobic workouts is just something like traditional weight lifting without the metcon component that is in CF, and aerobic is stuff that does not tax the system as much as CF, I probably even read that and as I said part of it for me is the subjective experience of having done the intense workouts and just being too tired, and the bodys resources are mostly used for recovery. So I guess technically it may not be true in terms of the CF system especially since it is scalable and adaptable, but I'm saying in practice that tends to be the case because of the emphasis on intensity.
Also it could very well be that if you give a little bit more time for recovery there will be gaps where you feel well enough to do mental work, and in the long run the conditioning may very well be better or faster than if you only did light aerobic exercises, but we're probably not going to see people do that kind of experiment. Also you figure if during the training period you would not be up for mental work then the overall volume of mental activity would be limited toward the end of the recovery period, so it starts to look like there's an inverse relationship between the intensity and the amount of time and energy you have for mental activity. So hey, if there's the opportunity to focus on training for a while without having to be concerned on how it impacts other demands, great - but practically speaking it tends to be an issue.
And again intensity isn't everything, it would be very interesting to explore the constantly varied part in terms of the specific movement, rather than the variation in intensity with the intervals. It seems like that's what they tend to do with traditional martial arts training, which makes sense because the focus is on skill rather than conditioning, so the intensity or capacity is built up over time rather than a constant push, since people are less likely to be able to control the body that precisely while maintaining that level of intensity. Even Roger admitted that in practice the gymnastics tends to be neglected, and my thought is if anything then it would be good to have a form of gymnastics that is more easily scaled then the traditional olympic sport, because a lot of that just does not seem to be very scalable considering how out of shape the general population is these days, which I imagine is one reason why there needs to be a good deal of work with weights because body weight exercises may be too much.
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Markfromcali
For some reason this thread makes me think of making a PSA based on Dove soap commercials - but Dub instead..
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P90x
by megaflower infor any of you who may doubt this fitness routine, it is for real.
iam in my 6th week(phase 2) and i have never felt of looked better.
i was fit before p90x (ran 4-5 miles, kayaked, weight training etc), but this program has allowed me to break through the wall.
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Markfromcali
One thing I should clarify, I wasn't saying that there's no research in anaerobic exercise and brain function - there is, and there's no benefit measured. If that wasn't the case I'd trust that doing something like Crossfit would in principle help, but they've looked at that.
I've done CrossFit classes, at some places they even put us in teams to include the sport element and of course you're pushing pretty good then, especially with weird stuff like flipping monster truck tires. One of the places here is run by the guy that developed their gymnastics program, Roger .. Harrell I think, smart guy and he did mention that they'll even teach you how to juggle which apparently helps raise the IQ a few points. As far as the brain benefit, it no doubt deserves more study. Intensity aside the "constantly varied" aspect would be interesting to look at, especially if you involve stuff that requires a fairly high level of kinesthetic intelligence- which might be where the juggling comes in. Unfortunately in practice it seems weights are usually favored over the gymnastics stuff even though external object control is supposed to come after gymnastics, with the metcon as a first foundation. Of course their idea of gymnastics is this broad idea of body control, although as it is traditional gymnastic stuff like the muscle up is not exactly something most of the population is ready for anyway.
By the way I think P90X uses some of the same principles, that's why this is relevant. So we're not really hijacking. :)