Where does it ever say to shun someone for the rest of their life even if they changed their behavior simply because they didn't come back and undergo a process of reinstatement that is also not Biblical? Why is a person forever defined by one moment?
dubstepped
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Help me with the disfellowshipping topic, how is it NOT scriptural
by LevelThePlayingField inmany have said that jesus never shunned anyone.
yet it seems that the apostle paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1co 5:9-12. it seems like shunning is what paul wanted us to do.
but honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.
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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?
by dubstepped inso, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
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dubstepped
You can go to thisjwlife.com for it. It's a podcast so go to your podcast player of choice iTunes (Apple Podcasts) or Google Play or use an app like Podcast Republic or Podbean to search for This JW Life and download to listen.
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Overcoming A Servile Mind And A Slave Mentality
by pale.emperor inovercoming servile mind and a slave mentality.
"care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner.
" —lao tzu.
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dubstepped
Wow, nicely written, and something I'm coming to terms with myself. I was listening to a podcast (shocking, I know) and they were interviewing Gretchen Rubin. Among other things, she recently wrote a book called The Four Tendencies. It is about how humans gravitate to one of four ways of dealing with expectations. That's not to say that we don't experience them all, but one tends to be your go to. Obliger, rebel, questioner, and I can't remember the fourth (probably because it's the healthier one, lol).
Anyway, while listening I was so sure I was a questioner and it didn't take me long to realize oh crap, I'm definitely an obliger, through and through. I do things out of obligation to others and often find myself and what I want to do as the odd man out.. The good is that I enjoy the external validation that comes from serving others and that I'm really good at it and it helps me in many ways. The bad is that I don't always know what's best for me and sell myself out. There's a better balance to be had. Heck, even doing things I want to do for myself often requires external accountability, or obligation. That's my motivation to meet expectations, whether internal or external.
I think I'm probably wired that way as a default to some extent. The stereotype is that firstborn often are people pleasers to some extent. But then I see how it made me ripe for the cult to pick. I wanted to be good enough so badly, and my parents gave me no validation. The congregation gave me that though if I did what they deemed right and good. Fuck, this has been too much of my life. Again, it's not all bad and makes me great at many things that I do, but it leaves a part of me unfulfilled.
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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?
by dubstepped inso, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
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dubstepped
Thanks everybody! I haven't received his thoughts yet, but he's read it and wants to look into some of the things I said. He also listened to the first episode of shunned which is my wife's story and sent me a very kind note just this morning. He's unlike any JW I've encountered. We may have to agree to disagree at some point but I like him as a person. He and I could probably be friends if he wouldn't have to keep me on the down low forever.
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Rejoice cos God's tent is.... Disintegrated by a cat 5 truth storm
by Normalfulla injust had to share... a former friend of my wife's, has just left our house, unbeknown to us, her and her husband have been inactive for about a year and a half, they have pre teen boys too.
she reached out to my wife as she had heard that we were apostates etc and needed someone to talk to.. .
after her father dying she was in a bad place mentally and emotionally and reached out to her cong for support, apon receiving 0 she turned to the bible for comfort only in her raw emotional state to realize that jehovah was a murderous unfair god and then her wheels of rational reasoning started turning.. she questioned things and was outspoken about things and attracted elder attention... long story short she wanted to connect with a friendly ear and she splurged she's never going back, the bible is all bulls**t and it's a cult, despite not knowing most of ttatt we all shared experiences and watched her eyes boggle at (stuckinarut... the first euphoric high) the un scandal, beth sarim, ray franz, 607, arc.
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dubstepped
That's great! Another one bites the dust. Get out of her, my people, lol. I'm sorry it will blow up parts of her/their life, but it will be worth it all because freedom is better than slavery to a cult any day. Good for you for being there for them too. Thanks for sharing that. -
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Do You Still Use Facebook Like Before?
by minimus inmany of my friends are turning to instagram.
i’m not on there just yet.🦍.
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dubstepped
I love Facebook. I keep up with friends and I've made so many new ex-JW friends through it. People find me personally after hearing my podcasts and reach out. We follow each other's lives and cheer each other on. It's great. I had very few friends on there as a JW but lots of great friends now.
I don't do IG yet. My wife uses that more.
Oh, and I unfollow people that make Facebook suck for me. Too much politics, too many man hating remarks because your girls will hate on men with you, too many posts per day to where my entire feed is you, or sharing every stupid memory that comes up will be cleared from my feed. I make it as enjoyable as possible.
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Suffern tenants must move after Jehovah's Witnesses group buys building
by TJ Curioso insuffern tenants must move after jehovah's witnesses group buys building .
suffern the nonprofit organization behind the jehovahs witnesses has purchased an apartment complex in the village with plans to use it as temporary housing for members while they work to build a massive new headquarters in nearby warwick, orange county.. the sale of the 48-unit suffern commons at 10-12 chestnut st. closed last week, a spokesman for the watchtower society told the journal news.. the deal forces families in the three-story building to quickly find alternative housing and could mean a loss to the village of $56,000 in annual property taxes if the new owner secures a religious tax exemption which it is interested in, spokesman richard devine said.. before the sale was confirmed, tenants spent the past few weeks anxiously trying to figure out why some of them received notices to vacate by june 30. others who had signed one-year leases or didnt know when their leases were up, like terri fosina-friedman, also have prepared to move.. but the painful process and lack of information from their landlord and the new owner has angered many residents, fosina-friedman said.. im just happy that i got it settled and i got another place to live and my son can stay in the school district, she said.. the watchtower society, the brooklyn-based organization that establishes doctrine for millions of jehovahs witnesses around the world, intends to honor tenants existing leases at suffern commons, devine said.
he indicated that the society would consider an extension of the june 30 move-out deadline.. were going to work with the tenants, he said.
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dubstepped
Yeah, Morpheus got me. I thought that the parts in bold were possibly being used to assert something larger.
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Wasted A #@$%&!** Day
by FedUpJW inwell i got to waste another day.
for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.
they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.
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dubstepped
Of course they took care of the dog, not the evil Catholic woman, under #7 there. Good grief. Don't forget everyone, they get to do such charity tax free!
Whew, I don't see how you do it, but good for you if that's your life choice and it gets you what you want. It's not easy to sacrifice like that for family. I'd blow a gasket during the program and probably end up on YouTube, lol.
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Suffern tenants must move after Jehovah's Witnesses group buys building
by TJ Curioso insuffern tenants must move after jehovah's witnesses group buys building .
suffern the nonprofit organization behind the jehovahs witnesses has purchased an apartment complex in the village with plans to use it as temporary housing for members while they work to build a massive new headquarters in nearby warwick, orange county.. the sale of the 48-unit suffern commons at 10-12 chestnut st. closed last week, a spokesman for the watchtower society told the journal news.. the deal forces families in the three-story building to quickly find alternative housing and could mean a loss to the village of $56,000 in annual property taxes if the new owner secures a religious tax exemption which it is interested in, spokesman richard devine said.. before the sale was confirmed, tenants spent the past few weeks anxiously trying to figure out why some of them received notices to vacate by june 30. others who had signed one-year leases or didnt know when their leases were up, like terri fosina-friedman, also have prepared to move.. but the painful process and lack of information from their landlord and the new owner has angered many residents, fosina-friedman said.. im just happy that i got it settled and i got another place to live and my son can stay in the school district, she said.. the watchtower society, the brooklyn-based organization that establishes doctrine for millions of jehovahs witnesses around the world, intends to honor tenants existing leases at suffern commons, devine said.
he indicated that the society would consider an extension of the june 30 move-out deadline.. were going to work with the tenants, he said.
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dubstepped
So Watchtower bought a property for a specific use, used it as stated, and now sold it. Is this newsworthy? I'm not being sarcastic, I just saw it and wondered if I'm missing something beyond the obvious.
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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?
by dubstepped inso, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
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dubstepped
He specifically asked me why I didn't believe in a creator and god from previous conversation and my podcast, which brought him to me. I therefore answered that. In a different conversation that would have been an interesting way to approach the topic. That's an interesting line of thought though.