ok. many people deny ct russell was a freemason.
i have read articles whereby some have found no evidence to prove he was one at any point in his life.. however, given all the masonic symbols in the early publications including the use of the name jehovah ( the name the freemason's use to identify god), as well as the expressions used such as 'new world, new order' etc certainly raises suspicions.. then there is the article he wrote in the herald magazine outlining that he was a freemason (see the following video 40 seconds in).
it really does make you think!.
Nathan Natas - There would have been conflicts because of the Pastor's feelings about interfaith activities
I was under the impression that CTR's group of BS (Bible Students) were comprised of people of all different faiths and that it was okay to mix. Am I wrong? Or did I misread your statement? I thought that, at least at the beginning of the cult, things were open and not restrictive at all. Did he later become anti-mingling of faiths?
akid, happy birthday!!!.
am i the first person in your life to send you a birthday card?.
wanted to send you a birthday cake but the pic is copyrighted and it may not be proper to paste it in a forum.. remember to click here .
Happy birthday Akid!!! We're happy to have you as part of our dysfunctional family on here. We aren't perfect, but at least we're not in a cult. Kerp your head on straight, keep your eyes up looking ahead at goals that will help you move on to better things someday, and know that people care.
Sorry, no cool pics. I don't know how to do that from my phone.
just curious.. when you started to wake up to the truth about the truth, did the shock and the whole experience distract you from your usual activities such as performing at your place of work?.
did you become so consumed by researching, and the subsequent factual discoveries, that it affected your ability to carry out daily tasks?.
Yes. My wife and I has worked together doing the same thing for 14-15 years at that point and there were days where we just weren't on top of our game and other days where I remember telling her that for the first time I just didn't even care at all about work. It seemed utterly irrelevant and of no consequence.
On the other hand, we clean houses and some of our clients had amazing conversations with us. They couldn't speak TTATT but they could listen and talk about our world crumbling and the shunning. It was huge just to know that people cared.
some who are not disfellowshipped are still shunned i also know there’ are disfellowshipped ones that family still associate with..
My wife and I are totally shunned after disassociation. In response to Simon's question, we were shunned even before disassociation by our families for deciding after 14 years or so to no longer shun my disfellowshipped brother. Shun, or be shunned. It hadn't been addressed congregationally, but once elders started calling we refused to play games and disassociated.
while searching for some jw related stuff online, i stumbled across this page created by a pimi.
his name is steve mcdowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.
however, this version, he says, is the full version.
Wow, lol.
i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.
when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..
We had a "mother's room" that looked into the auditorium through dark tinted glass so you could beat your kids and still see the meeting. It was also practically soundproof other than the speaker inside drowning out the screams. I was too old to get hauled back, but I watched many kids get taken back there. My mom was a pincher though. No marks, acute pain, worked for her.
'satan's coming after us'.
screenshot from video.
shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.
@LV101 - yes, it shows that the cult is willing to hide evidence that would prove the truthfulness of something. That should tell you all you need to know about the cult we all followed. They peddle "The Truth" but will do anything necessary to protect what they really love, money that keeps their god, the organization that they worship, standing. They have proven not to care about the truth of the pain they've caused by allowing pedophiles to be protected, they don't care about the deaths of humans due to their blood policy, they don't care about helping one's that are hurt by them, they only care about themselves. No charity work there, it's all for them. They should lose their tax free status and go be the mega real estate corporation that they want to be.
'satan's coming after us'.
screenshot from video.
shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.
Also, to reach so far to pat yourself on the back in praise of their handling of child abuse cases makes you pretty much a disgusting human being. Do you feel good knowing that your cult sat on so many cases while discouraging people from going to actual authorities? Do you feel good worshiping an organization that even now fights against taking strong steps to protect the most vulnerable among them, that needs worldly governments to get them to take any action? I hope you don't suffer from motion sickness, because you'll need to find a bathroom after that much spin.
'satan's coming after us'.
screenshot from video.
shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.
Wow, the brainwashing is strong with this one. It takes mindlessness to on one hand praise the cult for having no blood on its hands, then follow it up with the skewed view of their blood policy, a policy that goes beyond scripture and has led to the death of countless individuals.
What a load of crap. Your false prophet cult has been proclaiming "crunch time" for over a century, getting it wrong time and again. Your free ebook is sanctioned by the faithful and discreet slave I'm sure?
my husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
As far as a formal support group with a specific process for helping people, I don't know of one. To me places like this, some Facebook groups, discussing sites about the various ex-jw media that's out there (youtube, podcasts, blogs, etc.), give people a place to find support. There are meetup groups in some cities where people go to the meetup website and then arrange to attend a group meeting. If a person needs serious help they should probably be in therapy of some kind. There are plenty of support groups for all of the issues mentioned, and they don't have to be specific to former JWs. There could be a former JW support group, but I'm not sure how it would be able to address all of the issues in the same group. I think there are usually specific groups for specific things in the world in general. Simply being an ex-JW may not be enough, you might have to have ones for each specific issue.
Just my 2 cents.
