Posts by Corvin

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I did my good deed for the day

by neverthere in

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hubby came home with a purse he found on the road.

in it was an envelope stuffed with money, i mean alot!

of money.. it took half an hour but i tracked down the owner of the purse and called her.

Corvin

WOW! Now see! JW's in good standing are not the only ones who hold a good conscience and do the right and honorable thing. Great job.

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Found a Second Aircraft Owned by The WT

by Gerard in

this aircraft is the same model owned by the wt.

it is a twin-engine piper pa-31-310 navajo and it's n number is n254sw

as their other cessna twin-engine, this one is also based in alaska.

Corvin

As their other Cessna twin-engine, this one is also based in Alaska. It is registered to "Kingdom Support Services" , the corporation that holds titles to all of WT's vehicles:
Kingdom Support Services, Inc. (Incorporated 2000)President Harold L. Corkern
Vice Presidents Alan D. Janzen, Robert L. Butler
Secretary/Treasurer Alexander W. Reinmueller
Directors James F. Mantz, Jr., Thomas Kalimeris, Alan G. Browning

Yes, great work! Can you dig up anything on the GB's membership at the Chicken Ranch in Las Vegas? Does the Chicken Ranch have a library?

Corvin

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Do GB really go out in service????

by marie67 in

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this may have been posted before but i have always wondered if the gb go out in service like everyone else does.

do some former bethelites have any insight on this?

or anyone else know?

What I heard was that Knorr was outside in his dickies clipping the hedges, not out in service, when someone made a snyde comment about him (nathan) working so hard when the fat cats were sitting back in their offices at the top . . . Knorr then introduced himself as the prez.

I was about to start this very thread. How funny.

Corvin

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Question for those who chose to be JW

by pc in

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i was born into the borg, i was wondering what made you join.

my mother who is now deceased use to say she did all this research.

my brother keeps stating that as this great fact to me.

Corvin

My brother keeps stating that as this great fact to me. I say "WHAT THE HELL DID SHE READ"?

I remember how I would tell some people how I also researched things out of the Catholic Encyclopaedia, lexicons, and other sources (since the wt often cited some of those sources in their articles). Man, the looks I got.

Corvin

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A time paradox with the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by gods vigilante in

continuing in my endeavor to find the truth i found something quite interesting about the "faithful and discreet slave".

according to the society they say that the faithful and discreet slave mentioned in matt.

24 : 45 refers to the anointed ones who have been appointed by their master over his belongings.

Corvin

The Society says that Jesus Christ's second coming had taken place in 1914 and so they were appointed over his belongings at that time. However, according to vs 44 of Matt 24, just one scripture before vs 45, it says "at an hour that you do not think it, the Son of man is coming." If this were true then the "1914 prophecy", presented by Bible Students at the time, could have never taken place because no one knows the hour in which the Son of man is coming.

Of course the GB will argue that while it is "at an hour that you do not think it to be, the Son of man is coming (on the Greyhound)", they were watching out for him the whole time. They were at the ready when JC stepped off the bus. They just went by the wrong bus schedule is all.

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"A PROGRESSIVE Brain Washing"

by Corvin in

the following article excerpt from the wt is an attempt by the society to explain why they are so full of crap.

the red highlights are my own commments.. *** w00 1/1 pp.

9-11 serving with the watchman ***.

Corvin

The following article excerpt from the WT is an attempt by the Society to explain why they are so full of crap. The red highlights are my own commments.

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w00 1/1 pp. 9-11 Serving With the Watchman ***

A

Progressive Cleansing

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During some 40 years up until Christ?s heavenly rule began in 1914, the Bible Students had been freed from many of the non-Biblical doctrines of Christendom, such as cow tipping, infant baptism, wheat grass enemas, immortality of the human soul, purgatory, bath houses, hellfire torment, Wednesday night poker games, and a Trinitarian God. But it took additional time to purge all wrong ideas. For example, in the 1920?s many Bible Students wore a pin featuring a cross-and-crown (weener and hoo-ha) emblem, and they celebrated Christmas and other pagan holidays. However, for worship to be pure, all vestiges of idolatry must be discarded. God?s Word, the Holy Bible and our everchanging interpretion of it, must be the sole basis of the Christian?s faith and way of life. (Isaiah 8:19, 20; Romans 15:4) It is wrong to add to God?s Word or to take anything away from it, but we do it as cleverly as we possibly can and hope nobody notices or takes exception.?Deuteronomy 4:2; Revelation 22:18, 19. Never mind that some of our absurd interpretations of Holy Scripture have needlessly cost many their lives, broken up families, protected child molestors and causes a little thing called generational neurosis, clinical depression and suicide.

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One example will underline how important this principle is. In 1886 when C. T. Russell published a book that came to be called The Divine Plan of the Ages, this volume contained a chart *giggles* linking the ages of mankind *snort-laughs* with the Great Pyramid of Egypt. It was thought that this memorial of Pharaoh Khufu was the pillar referred to at Isaiah 19:19, 20: *muah ha ha ha ha ha* "In that day there will prove to be an altar to Jehovah in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to Jehovah beside its boundary. And it must prove to be for a sign and for a witness to Jehovah of armies in the land of Egypt." What relationship could the pyramid have with the Bible? Absolutely none! And that's the thing! We were actually teaching that crap and also telling our members they should not be vaccinated because it was evil! Ah, good times, good times. Well, as an example, the combined length of the Governing Body's organs and certain passages in the Great Pyramid was said to indicate the time for the beginning of the "great tribulation" of Matthew 24:21, as it was then understood. Some Bible Students became engrossed with measuring their own organs and the different features of the pyramid to determine such matters as the day they would be going to heaven!

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This so-called Bible in Stone was held in esteem for some decades, until the Watchtower issues of November 15 and December 1, 1928, made clear that Jehovah needed no stone monument built by pagan pharaohs and containing demonic signs of astrology to confirm the witness given in the Bible. Rather, Isaiah?s prophecy was seen to have a spiritual application. As at Revelation 11:8, "Egypt" is symbolic of Satan?s world. The "altar to Jehovah" reminds us of the acceptable sacrifices made by anointed Christians while they are temporary residents in this world. (Romans 12:1; Hebrews 13:15, 16) The pillar "beside [Egypt?s] boundary" points to the congregation of anointed Christians, which is "a pillar and support of the truth" and which stands as a witness in "Egypt," the world that they are about to leave.?1 Timothy 3:15. (We were total kooks with the pyramidology thing and we just could not keep a straight face when trying to cram that crap down your throat. When we just could not make it work, we tossed it out).

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As the years pass, Jehovah continues to give us further clarification of truth, including a clearer understanding of his prophetic word. (Proverbs 4:18) In recent years, we have been encouraged to look again with deeper understanding at?among other things?the generation that will not pass away before the end comes, (because obvioiusly they are all dead now), the parable of the sheep and the goats, which had a tendency to turn on a few of the Governing Body originating from the midwest, the disgusting thing and when it will stand in a holy place (because we hung out with and "touched" the discusting thing for about 10 years), the new covenant, the transfiguration, and the stone temple pilot vision of the book of Ezekiel. It may be difficult at times to understand such updated explanations, but the reasons for them become clear in due course; the reason being we will say anything to bring new ones into our direct sales organization and say anything to keep the older schmucks from wandering off before they kick without leaving everything to us in their last will and testimony. If a Christian does not fully understand a new explanation of a scripture, and has the nerve to think, reason and question what we say, he will be admonished and if he does not cowar before the elders, their little green Bibles and a fist full of Watchtowers, he will most likely be disfellowshipped and denounced as an apostate . . . he does well, by God, humbly to echo the words of the prophet Micah: "I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation."?Micah 7:7.

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Recall that the watchman "proceeded to call out like a lion: ?Upon the watchtower, O Jehovah, I am standing constantly by day, and at my guardpost I am stationed all the nights.?" (Isaiah 21:8) The anointed remnant have shown lionlike courage (the essence of Satan seeking to devour someone) in exposing false religion and showing people the way to freedom (while we do our damnedest to hide and justify the crap we do in secret). (Revelation 18:2-5) As "the faithful and discreet slave" pretenders, they have provided erroneous Bibles, poorly researched and slanted magazines, and other publications in a multitude of languages?an endless diet of tainted and recycled "food at the proper time" that causes diarhea and/or spiritual constipation. (Matthew 24:45) They have taken the lead in gathering the "great crowd (of ignorant suckers) . . . out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues." These too are cleansed by the ransoming blood of Jesus and show themselves lionhearted in rendering (the WTBTS) God "sacred service day and night", which cause revenues to go through the roof as a result! (Revelation 7:9, 14, 15) What has been the fruitage this past year of the small surviving group of anointed Witnesses of Jehovah and their companions, the great crowd of polyester wearing JW's? The Governing Body gets to sit fat and pretty while the "great crowd" keeps buying our publications and knocking on an infinite number of doors selling those publications! We are like the great ancient army of Amway in that 90% of our consumers are also distributors! Our next article will tell.

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Note to the blind ones (anti-apostasy)

by Razor in

i notice a lot of anti-jehovah's witenesses post here so i will speak my peace.

2 peter 3:3 .

"for you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires" .

Corvin

do you think we haven't heard what you have to say BEFORE?????????? You are dealing with intelligent, enlightened people who have experienced the WTS.............it's corruption and lies.
So please don't insult us by preaching to us!

Here! Here!

Razor, if you are real, you are only paroting the rank recycled garbage of the organization you are still bound to. It is mindless and ever so offensive. Please do bite me young man.

corvin

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hello

by robo-church in

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friends

just thought i would introduce myself.

i've lurked here for a while, lately i feel like i need some support.

i was born a jw.

Corvin

Welcome Robo-church, and thanks for lurking no more.

Yours is a common story and stand by, for many intelligent and coherent former JW's are about to post some pretty helpful advice. We, most of us, have been through it all. We can help. You will find much love and support here in this forum.

I believe the first step, in your case, is to gain your independence from your parents. You cannot manuever whatsoever under the scrutiny of any JW whether it be your parents or someone else in the congregation.

Educate yourself and be armed with accurate knowledge about the truth. Know the truth about "The Truth".

Decide how you want to exit, but consider: Are you baptized? Did you get baptized while still a minor? (there are some legal options should you need them) Should you fade? Should you come out boldly against the WTBTS? What is practical for you? Should you simply appear to be inactive and have your parents, elders and others in the congregation always on your ass about meetings and service? Ultimately, does it matter that you lose the association of those you know in the organization if you should come out? Do you wish to maintain some relationships with certain ones? So many questions specific to your situation, and only you can decide what is best for you.

Some have boldly and resolutely come out against the organization in sort of an activist kind of way. Others are still attending meetings and coming here in cognito.

Ask yourself; what result do I really want to get? How free do I want to be? Start there. Then determine what it is that you must do in order to reach that goal. What will it take for you to have your life the way you want it?

Best Regards,

Corvin

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HELP!God get me out of here!PART2 [dedicated to gay people with thanx]

by Sparks in

to be read by any-one,but especially dedicated to the gay people that kindly read part one in good faith;many thanxxx`s to you all.

[if you haven`t read part one then basically it was me taking the piss-out of myself,being a world class homophobe.well who else can you take the piss-out of in these day`s of political correctness..apart from yourself...!?!

] many thanxxx to every-one that replied to part one;sorry i didn`t answer you sooner,but i`ve been off-line for a couple of days with a huge technical problem with my computer;(since writing about being stuck in a gay`s paradise and my homophobic reactions,my computer keeps going down on me.....but we`re still good friends).i will answer all your posts back over on part one now, i wrote this while off-line.okay lets start:- .

Corvin

Reminds me of a French-Canadian brother I use to work with. When we would kid around on the job, he would often ask, "bruddar! are you trying to give me a assol?"

Once I responded with a deadpan expression and asked, "what did you call me, Sebastion?"

Everyone on the job got it cept for Sebastion.

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13-year old son going to partake tonight

by roybatty in

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my 13-year old son is with his jw mom this weekend but he just popped by to grab his baseball mit and to tell me (lol) that since his mom is making him go to the memorial tonight, he's going to eat the bread.

he's a great kid but he has no sense of fear.

i didn't know if i should laugh or tell him not to.

Corvin

::secretly hoping your boy follows through::

I remember when I was a kid, a youngish man with long hair and a beard came to the memorial one year, he was the "non-believing" husband of one of the sisters. When the bread was passed, he ate some. The jaws of those who saw him dropped down to the floor. When the wine came around he also drank! LOL. Either he was ignorant of the fact that he wasn't suppose to do that or he just did not care and did it because HE thought is was the right thing to do. Wow, we thought. Is this guy professing to be of the annointed???