i just purchased, at amazon.com, and i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of, two of raymond franz's books, crisis of conscience and the other one .
christian freedom i think it was called.
for those who have read them; would you please give some sort of brief review of these books and rate them either "
I just purchased, at Amazon.com, and I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of, two of Raymond Franz's books, Crisis of Conscience and the other one . . . Christian Freedom I think it was called.
For those who have read them; would you please give some sort of brief review of these books and rate them either "" or upto FIVE ""?
Thanks,
Corvin
i truley love this topic!.
beans.
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/mini_tru.htm
Great stuff, Beans!
i don't know if this topic has been discussed before, but i have some questions about how witnesses get to write articles in the watchtower.. while reading a few of maximums' posts from 2 years ago, there was one from barbara anderson who briefly described the internal politics between the editors of the awake and the editors of the watchtower.. i'm more interested in the watchtower writers though than the awake, as this is supposed to be the "spiritual food" we are all to take in and absorb.. so how does one get to be a watchtower writer?
do you have to be able to write well?.
what are your experiences with any writers you have met?
"What I will say is that it dealt the the arts which was my trade."
Dave, is that you . . . ?
i stumbled upon this site several weeks ago and have been reading avidly ever since.
i am not nor have ever been a jw, and my exposure to them and the society is cursory at best - a neighbor whom i have observed never extends themselves into the community at large, a best friend from high school who converted a number of years ago (not sure if he was baptised) and who no longer lives in my part of the us - wisconsin, and a little 4th grade student who asked my permission to pass out wt literature at school (i refused her).
it was that little girl who got me searching the internet and here i am, hooked into one amazing story after another.
Thank you for your excellent post, insights and accurate observations. You are so welcome here.
"Rubbernecking" = Also a great Elvis Song!
link to picture: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/file/7d83e711-da29-44aa-bde7-f74f9a3d79bd.ashx.
the following caption appeared opposite the paragraph porneia (quote: "porneia includes such acts as oral sex, anal sex, and masterbating another person") what can happen if we ignore warnings?.
now is it just me, but isn't the picture of the little boy trying to rescue his ball from out of a pond just a little weird?
"paedophiles like pictures of little boys reaching for balls...."
[Choked on my bacon laughing]
Also, "Freddie Brownshoes" inspired by Dave Malone's Story, My Two Week Consulting Trip to Bethel.
hey folks, i started a thread like this on another forum....... i have heard many experiences from people who claim to have had intimate experiences with demons and the like.
most of it i easily discard as emotionally unbalanced physco-drama, and for good reason.
however i have heard much on this *ouija* board stuff......."ohh, it is freaky" kinda talk.
I had many experiences that I thought were demon attacks, and I have pysically seen and felt things that I cannot explain, however, once I decided the "truth" was not the truth, I have not had one incident of "demon encounters" The WTBTS makes us demon paranoid from birth if were unlucky enough to be born into it.
Corvin
was there a comment made at a meeting that finally convinced you, this is not right?
for me a couple of weeks ago was in the service meeting, they stated that if the children didnt finish their homework because they were studying the bible or at a meeting that teachers should understand that their meetings and study are more important.
i looked at my wife and went "what"??
Two comments Watchtower conductor : Unlike worldly wisdom ours relies on Gods word of truth and his spirit direction, our teachings are not swayed by the current beliefs of the day.You can pick articles from 50 yrs ago and the information is accurate and true.......What a Load of crap Public speaker : The Catholic church is reaping what they have sown by having all these Child molestation charges laid against them. How could God back an organization with a record like that.........Remove the rafter from your own eye first brother.
That's lettin' them have it with both barrels, Shotgun!
was there a comment made at a meeting that finally convinced you, this is not right?
for me a couple of weeks ago was in the service meeting, they stated that if the children didnt finish their homework because they were studying the bible or at a meeting that teachers should understand that their meetings and study are more important.
i looked at my wife and went "what"??
I had already been df'd for nearly 14 years, but still clung to the hope or possibility that I would one day be able to resolve my personal issues and return to the organization with a clean conscience, no hypocrisy making myself a "perfectly acceptible sacrefice" to Jehovah . . .
My exwife and her new husband, both JW's in "good standing", had and still have a pattern of inflicting emotional, spiritual and (formerly) physical abuse on the kids my exwife and I share. (They were still living at their mom's and stepdad's home at this time)
They were constantly hauling the kids into the backroom to meet with the elders to "straighten them out", charging them (ages 11, 13, 15) with disobedience and disrespecting their parents. The elders would crack open the Bible or a WT publication and proceed to counsel these young kids on how they could "aid in making their family life better". The problems stemned from the hypocrisy of mom and stepdad, and the elders knew this for they had already repeatedly counseled them on their marriage, domestic violence and alcohol abuse, not to mention the fact that the two of them got together and repeatedly committed fornication before marriage, and had also been DF'd for it. Yet they put the burden of change on the kids at this point, i.e., "kids, basically you have take your mom and stepdad's crap and pretend all is righteous in your home".
The clencher is when all hell broke loose at their home one day and my otherwise meek and docile 13 year old daughter snapped and litteraly beat the crap out of her stepdad when he had baited her and antagonized her with threats that he would kill me if she told me about his behavior. I mean she tore his fat drunken ass up and kicked him out of the house and into the front yard where she proceeded to kick his ass some more. He called the cops on her but was too chicken to press charges. (He knew I was next in line to kick his ass).
Once again, the girls were taken up before the elders to be counseled for their bad behavior. My 13 yo daughter told the PO that because of all the terrible crap happening in the home that she preferred to live with her df'd dad (me). He said to her, "I don't think that would be a good idea. You will be putting yourself in spiritual danger . . . "
I wrote him a letter and asked him who the hell he thought he was. I said, "with all these girls have been through, are you so arrogant that you can presume to say what Jehovah's will is? They have come to live with me because I, a df'd brother, the worldy courts and CPS had to intervene on their behalf because you and the body of elders who knew of the situation in the home, and are charged with protecting these young ones, did nothing to protect them; instead you so much as told them it was their fault and to suck it up . . ."
That was pretty much it for me.
NOTE TO ELDERS IN THE VALLEY CONGREGATION, EL CAJON, CA: STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MY KIDS, YOU SELF-RIGHTEOUS IDIOTICAL PRETENDERS.
Tim Corvin
