I hope you prevail in your lawsuit against the Society
I don't think he has a lawsuit against the society. He only mentioned pressing formal criminal charges against the man who allegedly molested his children.
as you may or may not be aware the poster 'mikepence' has asked people to donate to enable him (and his family?
) to travel to the silentlambs march and to file charges against their alleged abuser.
because he seemed to suddenly become very opposed to the idea of attending the march, i and some others asked him what i thought were simple and reasonable questions.
I hope you prevail in your lawsuit against the Society
I don't think he has a lawsuit against the society. He only mentioned pressing formal criminal charges against the man who allegedly molested his children.
i have now read the section that deals with me.
all i can say is i am amazed!!!
don't my critics have any concern about the facts???
Bchamber,
I am interested in more information on your book about English Bible Translations. Can you please post some more info?
Thanks.
can anyone confirm if this is true?
i received the e-mail below:
panorama was shown 14th july and we heard shortly after that the police were very interested!
And what is the name of this so-called friend of yours in England? Does he know Paul?
as you may or may not be aware the poster 'mikepence' has asked people to donate to enable him (and his family?
) to travel to the silentlambs march and to file charges against their alleged abuser.
because he seemed to suddenly become very opposed to the idea of attending the march, i and some others asked him what i thought were simple and reasonable questions.
I'm not sure what all the huffs and puffs are about. I don't see anything technically wrong with what Mike did. He clearly explained that he was looking for donations so he could fly back east to press formal charges and to participate in the March. He later recanted on the march bit and offered a refund to those who already donated. In other words he said I am now only going back to press charges so if you no longer want to donate for just that then you can get a refund.
All this said, I would never donate money to someone like this. Only because I don't know the details. I have no reason not to believe him, but I also have no reason to believe him. I have no idea of the details of his situation. For all I know, he may not even have any kids.
But if anyone was brave enough to donate to this man and his family, I certainly wouldn't moan about it now, especially since you can get a refund. And if you do find yourself moaning, check yourself for a little selfishness. Did you donate because you thought it might help the cause/march that you are involved in and you want to see succeed? Or did you donate because you truly want to help this man and his children find justice? If it is the latter, then I don't see why it matters as long as he pursues this. Just my opinion.
please check the quotation below taken from let your kingdom come page 115.
*** kc 115 12 the "last days" and the kingdom ***
the first world war was one of the great convulsions of history.barbara tuchman, the guns of august, 1962 .
Great work again! I really enjoyed the second quote and learning it's true context. I do think the first one is a stretch, however, since the WT did include "one of the great convulsions." So it does not seem that they were trying to say it was the only one. Nevertheless, I enjoy this research you have done.
i have now read the section that deals with me.
all i can say is i am amazed!!!
don't my critics have any concern about the facts???
Bchamber,
I am interested in your book about English Bible Translations. Can you please post some more information about this? I think others would be interested as well.
ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!
good new right?
well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????
Therefore, although both parties are certainly responsible for the pregnancy, the man is in a unique position to control the physical circumstances of sexual relations and, accordingly, it is my opinion that he ought to bear total responsibility for mistakes that result in pregnancy.
I'm not sure I understand this as it seems to be contradictory. You state that "both parties are responsible for the pregnancy" but then end with "he ought to bear total responsibility for mistakes that result in pregnancy." If I understand this the way that I hope it means, then we are in agreement. My opinion is that the male ought to bear total responsibility as well as the female. They are both responsible for the child and each party should be willing to bear their full responsibility. I don't see how one is "more" responsible for the mistake than the other, unless the male lies to the woman, or vice versa, about using contraceptives.
and following that reasoning, Quincy ought to lay off his efforts to make his girlfriend feel "guilty" about resolving her mistake with an abortion.
There is a difference in making someone feel guilty about a mistake they recognize and trying to make someone see that something they want to do is a mistake. I see nothing wrong with arguing your case with someone that a decision they are about to make will result in the death/abortion/termination/whatever you want to call it of your growing child.
Her desire to have an abortion may indeed be the "responsible" action you speak of.
Not according to Quincy and his morals and that is what he felt compelled to explain to the mother.
While there is nothing wrong with a "male being concerned about the life of his child," there is something wrong with a male who uses emotional leverage to coerce his girlfriend to go through with a pregnancy that she really wants to abort. A pregnant woman is typically an emotional woman and one who is vulnerable to emotional manipulation.
To me, this kind of thinking gets into chauvinist thinking (not that I think you are one.) I feel the woman is equally capable to handle this decision. I don't feel males have any special abilities to emotionally manipulate women anymore than women do men. Any emotions that are stirred up would be natural emotions and there is a reason those emotions are there, a natural bond. I see nothing wrong with bringing this bond to the attention of the mother. I think the reverse, suppressing these emotions so you can carry out an act is immoral. Just my view point.
As you will admit, the man is at least equally to blame for the pregnancy, so he should not claim a higher moral status in this decision.
Why not? What if they had the child and one of the "responsible" parents decided that abuse was the best means of discipline? Should the other parent not claim a higher moral status since they are both to blame for the child being there? I see absolutely nothing wrong with having high morals and fighting for them.
However, I am very grateful that a woman still has the right to choose, unfettered by the interests of the man who purportedly fathered the baby.
I am saddened that so many pregnant women without extenuating circumstances even see this as an option. However I am glad to live in a country that allows for freedom of beliefs.
I am not sure why you used the word purportedly in there as I don't know of many men going around trying to stake claim on children that aren't theirs. It is usually the other way around.
I wouldn't want to father a baby that wasn't wanted by its mother.You may be surprised on how the bonds of parenthood change your feelings once one is on the way. Some men change, some don't. I hope you never have to face the chance of your wife wanting an abortion. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!
good new right?
well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????
Pro-choice is mainstream and is a view held by liberals and conservatives alike.
I wasn't referring to any Pro-choice statement you may have made, but rather to the fact that you were quick to blame the entire incident on the male and try and make him feel guilty for causing it. People shouldn't be made to feel guilty about their mistakes, but instead recognize them and take responsibility.
The extremist views you've expressed are more consistent with those espoused by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Jimmy Swaggart.
Aren't they for the illegalization of abortion? I am not. I think it should be kept legal. I simply think abortion is wrong and that there is nothing wrong with the male being concerned about the life of his child. I am no more extreme than a person who thinks abortion is OK and the male should stay out of the decision...which would be...ummmm...you (well you haven't exactly stated your views on the act of abortion itself and the morality of it, so I could very well be off on that point.)
ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!
good new right?
well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????
Actually, the name I used was not chosen arbitrarily. I asked if you were a "Femi-Nazi" because the term seemed to fit your initial post which was a hostile, heavily weighted left wing viewpoint.
Such wit! Acrackhead...what a play on the name amac, it even shares some of the same letters!Acrackhead, you are indeed a jackass.
Edited by - amac on 19 August 2002 18:20:58
did anyone happen to be watching the xgames last night omg.
one guy (can't think of their names) laneded double backflips on his cycle.
one was over 45 feet and the other over 80 feet!!!.
Sal Masekala, the announcer with the short dreads, is a DFed JW...and more importantly, the son of African Jazz legend Hugh Masekela.