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  Does the Ransom Sacrifice doctrine add up?

  by nicolaou in

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  common to almost all flavours of the christian faith is the teaching of the ransom.

  that the sacrifice of jesus' perfect human life paid back the debt of the perfect human life which our forefather adam had forfeited.. but is it truly a 'corresponding sacrifice'?.

  points to consider:.

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  toreador

  The catholic teaching of purgatory and indulgences fits in here as well. Does anyone know how that is supposed to work?

  thanks,

  Tor
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  Daniel's Prophecy, 605 BCE or 624 BCE?

  by Little Bo Peep in

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  hello all, i've been reading your site for a couple of years now, and have found, for the most part, it to be very helpful.

  i must say, at first i was very "scared" at what i might find, but contrary to what i grew up learning, there is a "wealth" of information outside of the watchtower organization.

  i haven't attended meetings for about two years now, and like many i've read about, have spent many hours researching, telling myself "i'm not wrong for searching", and doing more research.

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  Prove to me that God exists

  by CinemaBlend in

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  i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

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  Does It Mean One Religion?

  by Honesty in

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  at ephesians 4:5 reference is made to 'one faith'.

  does this mean the faith of one religion or denomination or does it mean all united in one faith, that is faith in jesus christ as lord and savior regardless of the denomination or religion?

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  I used to think so.
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  Elders wont answer my questions

  by gringojj in

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  well i had written up 30 or so questions for the elders.

  i made it very easy.

  ther were mostly simple questions with yes or no answers.

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  Good questions Blondie
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  Mostly for our non-USA friends.

  by Amazing1914 in

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  i greatly appreciate the many friends here on jwd that are from non-usa countries.

  i have a special affinity and good feeling for aussies and canooks and brits.

  anyway, over the years i have given the impression that i adhere to some kind of politcal position.

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  I think that the only one who really caught on to me was Hillary Step, who in my opinion, is one very good and sharp Canook.

  I thought our good girl Hillary was from England where they let him serve as a fill in CO a long time ago.

  Tor
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  What instruments are in your attic?

  by LittleToe in

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  having just had a conversation about musical instruments, i came to the conclusion that 90% of them end up in disuse, maybe even in the attic.

  what do you have stored away?.

  i have a chanter (the musical part of the bagpipes), recorder, two violins and a penny whistle, hiding somewhere.

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  Gary wrote:
  

  My wife found an organ in the bed one morning.

  Was it one of those little organs or one of those old big ones you had to pedal full of air to make them work and even then they sounded like a bag full of wind?
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  Daniel's Prophecy, 605 BCE or 624 BCE?

  by Little Bo Peep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello all, i've been reading your site for a couple of years now, and have found, for the most part, it to be very helpful.

  i must say, at first i was very "scared" at what i might find, but contrary to what i grew up learning, there is a "wealth" of information outside of the watchtower organization.

  i haven't attended meetings for about two years now, and like many i've read about, have spent many hours researching, telling myself "i'm not wrong for searching", and doing more research.

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  It sure looks like Babylon is mentioned in connection with the 70 years. Hmmmm.
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  Prove to me that God exists

  by CinemaBlend in

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  i need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.

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  Good point, Evanescence. I am not really sure why everyone is attacking believers of God in this thread. Cinema Blend said he wanted to argue the side of no God, everyone else has been doing it for him. He said he wanted arguments in favor of God. I notice that very few have gone along with his request.

  Qcmbr made a similar request recently and was treated to much the same. It makes me feel that maybe those who do not believe in God are extremely threatened or offended by anyone who even gives the appearance of doing so. Otherwise, why would so many feel the need to sidetrack the stated purpose of a thread like this?

  I would like to refine a couple of points in your statements. (1) Science can prove physical manifestations of God, that is, science can prove the effects of God's existence. (2) Science cannot tell us everything about physical objects, they are limited to describing those behaviors and attributes that they can discern through observation or mathematics. Often the observation takes the form of the subtractive, which means subjecting a specific physical element to a particular stimulus, recording the result, and trying to "backtrack" to the state prior to the stimulus.

  I asked earlier regarding the eternal existence of energy (never had a beginnning), the fact that everything we observe and can test for is energy in some form (in all), and the fact that energy is the ultimate source of life (by it, all things exist). These are each very important claims regarding energy, belief in which has produced many other scientific truths.

  I am not asserting that energy is God, but it may very well be a physical manifestation (in 3d-1t space) caused by the existense of God.

  Proposition 1: Motion has always existed.
  Proposition 2: Matter has always existed.
  Proposition 3: Energy has always existed.

  None of these have been proven, none of them can be proven, all of them are adhered to faithfully as foundational scientific precepts. On what basis?

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul

  Do you write all this stuff or do you get it from somewhere else?

  I like your reasoning by the way.

  Tor
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  Daniel's Prophecy, 605 BCE or 624 BCE?

  by Little Bo Peep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello all, i've been reading your site for a couple of years now, and have found, for the most part, it to be very helpful.

  i must say, at first i was very "scared" at what i might find, but contrary to what i grew up learning, there is a "wealth" of information outside of the watchtower organization.

  i haven't attended meetings for about two years now, and like many i've read about, have spent many hours researching, telling myself "i'm not wrong for searching", and doing more research.

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  toreador

  Your ignorance borders on arrogance and is both frustrating and amusing.

  Thats the understatement of the year.