Posts by prophecor

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We all have mothers....

by Preston in

my mom was born to a jewish family on staten island, new york 50 years ago.

she learned "the truth" from a group of sisters who told her that the jews were not god's chosen people and that she needed to be baptized.

she went through most of her life not following the society to a "t".

Preston, that is so touching. Reading your post was enlightening as I have often given thought to aspects you mention, that the internet is full of very lonely disturbed indiviuals typing their hearts and souls on a freeboard.

With the world being as huge as it is, and with the advent of the internet, reducing it to nothing larger than a television screen, the world of cyberspace can seem so antiseptic and overwhelming at the same time, we can hide behind our avitars and spout things for which many have no understanding whatsoever what they are saying. Many will spout their prejudices without having to worry about getting caught, or meeting that very same person down a back street oneday. It's a sad aspect of the nature of the beast.

On the other hand, some who try their best to use this vehicle as a forum for positive change make great progress. I personally have a voice that can be heard here. I was one not to speak out or up for myself or for anything I believed in.

Along with the transformation that has been taking place in me over time, from having the scales removed from my eyes regarding life in OZ, I have also been more vocal in real life. I try very hard to interact with my neighbors in my community, something that was always verbodden when under the regime of the WTS. I have socially made great strides and have surprised myself in just how much I can do.

I cannot speak to the issues of your being gay, but I can say that we all have need of keeping a keen eye on our own individual ghost and skeletons that exist in the closets of everyone, from Prince, to the Pope, to the President. Small and great, we are all just skeletons supported by weakly flesh.

I've learned very well how not to judge or overly criticize because I have a fleet of container ships loaded with baggage. A history, a questionable past, and it has taught the benefit of learning how to let some things go.

I hope that this is your last post for the year and not the last past for your life, as I have read several of the things you respond to, and you always stick out in my mind.

Would I like to know you if we met in real life? , I don't know, but even while being in the truth for the brief moment I was, I found that the brothers who were gay, in their former and even present lives, ( Once a Marine, Always a Marine ) were some of the most honest and truly down to earth people you would ever choose to be with, and though not being gay myself, I could always feel at home in their prescense, where it was often impossible to be myself around the regs.

I wish you all the best that this life can bring to you.

Much Respect.

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Happy New Year!

by Valis in

jw
friends

just wishing everyone a happy new year and to say we will be chillin over @ csg's house tonight if any of my dallas peeps would like to come over and help us celebrate.

just call me or pm and i'll give you my number.

hope all of you have a great new year!.

prophecor

J NY2U2

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Covenant with Noah, VOID!!! So much for the rainbow..........

by deceit in

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friends

was it not jehovah?s promise to never kill humans again by means of massive floods?

i guess knocking on 100,000 deaths is just a minor slip-up.

knowing the response of jw's to the horrible situation in asia and their reasoning of it, makes me feel indescribably sick in the stomach!

prophecor

Gumby, I vote that you get your own HBO comedy special....Dammit!!!

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Adam was perfect,...Right?

by prophecor in

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friends

my wife and i were discussing adam being a perfect creation of god.

we as jw's, have always associated adam with being such, but she tosses me a curveball and does not necessairily agree to the standard jw theology.

she believes that had adam been perfect, the sins of the fathers would never have been visited upon his children, we would never have been locked out of paradise and all the ills of this world would never have been an issue.

prophecor

Contrary to Rumor.......Giggolos' get....

Whoa,... just joking right?

No, but really though, it wasn't meant to be taken with absolute seriousness, I just thought, with my wife being the complicated Christian person that she is, her unique way of looking at many things we once believed is just so profound, but this was one that just made me look at her line of reasoning with such astonishment. Every once in a while, however, she really does makes me think. Outside the box that is.

Though I married outside of " The Truth ", I often credit her for helping me in my struggle being, post JW, although in an off hand way. It was because of her that we were able to get a computer, and sometime after, I was lured to freeminds.org and thank Jehovah, the rest is history. Over 10 years of guilt pain and fear were removed in about 6 months, and a chance at a new life.

Who says the daughters of Caanan were all bad?

Blondie, Carmel, did you just say something?

As regards the avitar, truly?, I look more like Austin Powers.

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Adam was perfect,...Right?

by prophecor in

jw
friends

my wife and i were discussing adam being a perfect creation of god.

we as jw's, have always associated adam with being such, but she tosses me a curveball and does not necessairily agree to the standard jw theology.

she believes that had adam been perfect, the sins of the fathers would never have been visited upon his children, we would never have been locked out of paradise and all the ills of this world would never have been an issue.

prophecor

My wife and I were discussing Adam being a perfect creation of God. We as JW's, have always associated Adam with being such, but she tosses me a curveball and does not necessairily agree to the standard JW theology. Why? She believes that had Adam been perfect, the sins of the fathers would never have been visited upon his children, we would never have been locked out of paradise and all the ills of this world would never have been an issue.

She does, however, agree that Adam was as close to perfection as a human being can get, being created in the image of God. Just a little lower than the angels.

Earlier in the week we also got into a discussion about the Last Adam, Christ Jesus, being in a position that Adam could never ascribe to. Jesus was God in the flesh, whereas Adam was human.

If one of the reasons Christ walked among men was the issue of universal sovereignty, proving that a perfect man could live according to the laws of God without breaking his commandments, then Christ being God in the flesh would be able to win, hands down! He Was God,( or a god according to JW teaching ) Adam however was not. As close to perfection as a human can get, yes...but perfect?

You're In The No Spin Zone, What Say You, XJDubs & Others?

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Covenant with Noah, VOID!!! So much for the rainbow..........

by deceit in

jw
friends

was it not jehovah?s promise to never kill humans again by means of massive floods?

i guess knocking on 100,000 deaths is just a minor slip-up.

knowing the response of jw's to the horrible situation in asia and their reasoning of it, makes me feel indescribably sick in the stomach!

prophecor

Forgive me for being of the Art Bell like mind set, but there was an interesting point that resident talk show host, George Noory presented on his coast to coast AM radio program a couple of nights ago.

Now. mind you, this is nothing other than conjecture here, but his statements kinda' got me to thinking. Have you ever thought that the billions of gallons of crude oil that are removed from the earth, due to drilling in the earth's core, might over time, contribute to the problems of those same teutonic plates moving over time? We've pulled immeasurable ammounts of crude oil from the heart of the earth over the past 100 or so years, with the advent of technology during the industrial revolution. Might we be able to reason that this type of pillaging of the planet's resources, in the long run, just might have something to do with the planet's response to mankinds lack of knowledge regarding his home here on earth?

Multiply that times the many other chemical and biological destructive forces that have resulted from mans mismanagement of the planet and you have a potential recipe for disaster.

Those of the generation that remember WWII might remember the arms race of the 40's thru the 60's. The earth was given to untold destructive forces in the developement of nuclear weaponry. Hydrogen bombs, Atomic bombs, and nuclear explosions of countless testing upon the earth's surface, as well as underground might also be viewed as a source of earths eventual response to the destructive forces that we as humans have placed upon the planet .

Have you seen the results of a man made underground nuclear explosion?, it is a frightening thing to witness, but there exist film footage of such events, and it literally shows what can be likened to a man made earthquake.

When you take a closer look at the destructive forces that we as humans have visited upon this planet, it can be seen how a disaster of this magnitude might have been in the making, long before any of us were even born.

The earth is timeless, it does not have to respond to man in the times that would be in our best interest, and without a fuller understanding of the absolute inner workings of our home, it will not. We will continue to be beset with hurricanes, such as the four that were visted upon Florida just this year, volcanic eruptions like Mt St. Helens, wildfires that take out entire states, blizzards like the east coast winter of 96, and much of this I cannot just pawn off on Jehovah, nor will I even give Satan a share in this, unnesescairilly, for we often give the Devil way more credit than he is due, but man needs to pay closer attention to the things that He has done, and somewhere down the line, we might all see ourselves and hopefully God, in a more correct light.

He is omnipotent, He is all powerful, He, however, is not the Genie in the bottle that will always magically make everything OK.

Much Respect.

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Covenant with Noah, VOID!!! So much for the rainbow..........

by deceit in

jw
friends

was it not jehovah?s promise to never kill humans again by means of massive floods?

i guess knocking on 100,000 deaths is just a minor slip-up.

knowing the response of jw's to the horrible situation in asia and their reasoning of it, makes me feel indescribably sick in the stomach!

prophecor

Jehovah should not be held responsible for the untimely deaths of the many who lost their lives during this weekends disaster. One life is just as precious to The Almighty as is one thousand or one hundred billion. It's a little presumptuous to lay that kind of blame on Jehovah without really looking a little deeper into the situation.

Unfortunately, as mankind continues to rape the planet of its natural resouces, oil, removal of the rain forests, air pollution, water polution, and countless other things that cause the earth to regurgitate, as would any human who consistently used their body for improper purposes, the planet we live on may seem an inanimate object, some huge rock hurtling along in space, but it's far from that.

The earth is alive, it breathes, it has a wealth of things that keep its insides flowing and moving, from the seemingly insignificant earth worm that burrows under the ground, assisting in keeping a flow of fluid circulating throughout the earth, to plants that give off oxygen, and you can take this, and all the other wonders of the planet in a thousand different directions, but when taking these things into consideration, after years and years of abuses the planet has suffered at the hands of man, the earth in some instances is going to respond to his foolishness and absolute lack of knowledge regarding the planet.

We're a high-tech society, given knowledge, bringing a flood of coveinience at our fingertips. From microwave ovens to remote controls for just about everything we own, from TV's to SUV's. MRI's and DVD's and mp3's and the beat goes on.

We've reached new heights of knowledge, unthinkable only twenty years ago, yet we are so far removed from understanding in the same breath, that our lives come into conflict with our natural surroundings. Technologically, we're so far behind the times that it's almost frightening to think where humanity was just 50 years ago, or 20, or 5 for that matter.

The earth has things to teach us but we cannot hear because we are consumed by things of the material world. We are spiritual beings, however, housed in these unfortunate physical shells, so far removed from the creator in this life, that we either can't, or worse, won't pay attention to the things the planet would have us know.

Just as Jehovah had to give instructions to the nation of Israel regarding the simple harvesting of crops, harvesting for 6 years, and not doing so for the 7th year and the bounty recieved from that, I believe there are even more radical things that The Almighty has yet to inform us about regarding the inner workings of this planet that we will never know on this side of heaven.

For instance the oil spill of the Exxon Valdez, and all that was done to try and prevent the oils further destruction of the coastline, sandbags proved to be of little value, however, after some few years had passed, a lowly form of algea proved to be the saving grace that would return the water to livable conditions again. No one was able to know this until they realized the coastline somehow had miraculously returned to normal. From something so simple and benign as the moss and algea created by God.

God has many secrets and surprises that natural man will never have an understanding of. Our focus, oftentimes, is on the wrong things. We can't see the proverbial forrest for the trees.

If the case of Gods being uncaring was true, how is one to explain the deaths 3,000 innocents who lost their lives during the horrific events of September 11, 2001, or the 6,000,0000 Jews who were slaughtered in WWII? Yes they were caused at the hands of man, but the signifigance of the deaths in conjunction with a caring God is what I'm discussing here. Unfortunately, we as humans get caught up in some pretty horrific events, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, landslides, and the list goes on and on.

For those who no longer belive in God, this response is not for you. For those who still believe, but reasonably have a proplem with the tragedy, it is hoped that you wouldn't immediately rush to judgement regarding God or his love for mankind, or as may be said in this case, God's seemingly uncaring position. If reports heard are true, however, tsunami warnings could've been issued, but because fear that tourism might suffer on some of those coastal communities, they may've chosen to keep silent on the matter, though not knowing just how signifigant those tsunamis might be. It is still too early to tell, and all this is too fresh in our hearts and minds to even respond in a rational way to the enormity of what has just taken place.

Tragedies such as these are unable to comprehended by any means, my hope is, however, that we all might take a deep breath, be thankful for this life, even in all its brevity, and hope in God's being a just God, especially in the untimely and unforseen occurences, that can befall, even everyone of us.

Godbless the Dead .

VZ'''''''[X

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JW CONNECTIONS.COM------Check It Out! You Can Date A Nice JW!

by minimus in

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friends

and they got pics too!

prophecor

+ I'm droppin' the gauntlet

Ditchin' 'da daughter of Caananite Wife,

Gonna' sign up and get me one'a dem d'ere ones boy, you betcha'!

They got mighty fine specimenz in d'ere!!!

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JW email forward about the tsunami

by cyber-sista in

anyway, this is an email i received this morning.

don't want to give any disrepectuful comments about it as this tragedy is overwhelming and i am grateful for any who have come out of this alive.

but yet i am still suspicious of any of these jw reports.

prophecor

With the number of those who died in the tragedy being almost incalculable, due to those who may never be found, I think it the height of arrogance to assume the "See, we told you what could happen if you don't....", position.

Can it truly be reasonable to assume that there were no witness fatalities in a disaster of that magnitude? Be they in service or be they not, it would appear that the fear mongering stance of the WTS is playing their "Gotcha' Card" ! Sadder still is the fact that they would use it at a time of incredible tragedy and great suffering.

No Shame in their Game.

PhessedOUT

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Who was Charles T.Russell really?

by anonymouslyyours in

let me know what you really think and who he was...and i will inform you.

prophecor

and is this Job resurected from the grave already?