i was talking to a friend about the jw's being apart of the un as an ngo.
she didn't like it, and was upset about.
rang up bethel (in australia) and inquired about it.
I'd be willing to bet good money that the WTS is not willing to release a copy of the documents they signed.
And if they did, it would only prove that the UN was lying. Of course, the WTS would never want to prove that one of Satan's earthly representatives was persecuting them....
for those who are df'd, are you proud of the way you were df'd?
adultery?
i was df'd for apostacy.
Last Co visit tho the CO said we treat the blood issue like apostacy now, DA. We had a specific blood case and he said it was a DA if unrepentant, just like apostacy. I dunno
Funny, one of my main beefs was with the blood doctrine. Even the PO wasn't able to refute my arguments. He had to go and "look them up" and get back to me regarding the JW beliefs. I hope I planted a seed for later on....
just got home from watching "constantine".
it was ok. a bit long and keanu was very "keanu".
i think he's like arnold schwarzenegger and only plays one type of role.. nice fiction.
I also thought that the "spear" should have played a larger part in the movie. I thought that the Mexican would have a huge part in the movie...you got that impression from the first 5 minutes of the film.
just got home from watching "constantine".
it was ok. a bit long and keanu was very "keanu".
i think he's like arnold schwarzenegger and only plays one type of role.. nice fiction.
I caught the afternoon showing today. I was a bit surprised to see that it was a little less serious than the previews led me to believe. I would give it a 7.5 out of 10. It wasn't super scary like I thought it would be according to the previews. It was very watchable. Keanu was a good fit for the character. If some folks are weary to go see it because of the demonic images -- I say it's not that bad. There are quite a few comical references in it too. If you are one of those type of people that do not like horror movies, this isn't one of them. Fictional movie making at its best.
for those who are df'd, are you proud of the way you were df'd?
adultery?
i was df'd for apostacy.
Sadly they dont DF for apostacy anymore, It is DA by attrition.
Incorrect. I was DF'd for apostacy. The elder who informed me of the judicial committee being formed said that they had "enough information against me for apostacy." Maybe the new Org book will redefine that announcement.
for those who are df'd, are you proud of the way you were df'd?
adultery?
i was df'd for apostacy.
I made it clear to many JW's before my announcement what I was going to be df'd for. I could have been automatically da'd for my 'apostacy' many, many months before, but it never happened. According to an elder friend of mine, the service desk at bethel most likely was pulling the strings from the beginning, in my case. After hearing about the judicial committee being formed, I didn't give in to their rules. I abstained from attending the meeting. There was no reason to re-hash what we had already talked about. I made it easy for them to decide what announcement to make.
BTW, the elder who called to tell me of their decision, never told me actual reason for the df'ing. I only assumed it from the original phone call from an elder who made general references to my case. I heard later that the elders were supposed to tell me the reason for the df'ing decision. But he didn't...
for those who are df'd, are you proud of the way you were df'd?
adultery?
i was df'd for apostacy.
For those who are df'd, are you proud of the way you were df'd? Adultery? Idolatry? Drunkeness? Apostacy maybe? ____ (Fill in whatever)
I was df'd for apostacy. And now, I am very proud for what I was df'd for. I believe that apostacy(as the way the WTS defines it) is the best manifestation of proving the WTS wrong. YOU know that they are wrong. YOU spoke out against them.
Are you proud to be df'd from the WTS?
my name is ayernye... sometimes i go by stephan... it used to be stephen mcguire back when i was a witness in the wilmington and groton massachusetts congregations from '83 - '94.
was a pioneer and ministerial servant and was married for two of those years.
with tremendous agony and confusion, i moved far away to discover myself... took years to adjust to my new reality... drugs... drinking... anything to numb my tired brain... but the transformation was eventual and so worth it... of course... i am now my own person... mostly happy, adjusted and living my life to the best i can... .
I hate to play the negative role here....but....most theatre and movie going people will not be interested in a single religious entity, especially a tiny one. Have you thought about incorporating a larger scale cult type influence that includes JW's? Rather than covering only JW's, include other well known cults and mention JW's as an aside. Topically speaking, JW's are nothing in the movie/documentary industry. Sure, most people have heard of them, but how many really know about them? This may be a hit on atomfilms.com with the anti-JW movement, but I wouldn't expect this to do well on an international scale.
The only way to draw attention to the JW's in this sort of medium is to make a documentary about several cults. Of course, I would love to see you prove me wrong...
the wts & its various corporations are a behemoth, rudderless ship with no one at the helm; only concerned with self-preservation.
the result is an inflexible organization slow to make change and not interested in the welfare & rights of individual members.. the internet and boards such as this allow for excellent communication and freedom of information.. because the internet is free and provides relative anonymity it has proven to be one of the greatest threats to the wts.. the wts leaders could be proactive and act in an ethical way, but they'd rather react when a perceived "threat" arises -- telling members to avoid the internet, shun family members, do more/stay busy, and so on.. as jt used to say, "i love this 'net thang".
dmp
The thing is, even if most witnesses have access to the internet, they do not always use it to research JW's. My wife is a good example of that. I sometimes check her internet history to see if she is looking things up, but she doesn't.
I am always holding out hope though......
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i will post this as a link for download, it's about 3.5 meg (searchable!).
http://members.cox.net/captainschmideo/km-e_us_3-05-march%202005.pdf.
That is real funny. My wife got a CD of these songs from a brother in the hall and bragged to me about how C. Dion was the singer of them. I told her she was on crack. How on earth would a "worldly" singer sing these crappy songs is beyond me. It is only a matter of time when she reads this KM that she will be shot down yet again.
