Posts by _Morpheus

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JW.bore invades my vacation?!?

by darth frosty in

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just got back from a cruise and dubs were walking around the boat faithfully wearing their jw.bore pins smdh.

than at cozumel i saw these lovely sisters.

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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

by ToesUp in

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a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

visit.

this occurred 3 months ago.

_Morpheus

@Ignorance, let me clarify:

the new arrangment changes mostly the way elders are appointed NOT deleted. Instead of getting a CO to sign off and then send it to bethel for approval, the CO is now the final word.

in the case if a deletion the CO was always involved and he COULD now be the final word, but not nessarily. The elder can still appeal although the appeal dosent go directly to the branch. If an elder is ok with removal or is stepping down then the CO can finish the matter immediatly.

it does raise an interesting point on this situation.... Were they all ok with being removed...? Likely not. I wonder if this sitution had been broight to the CO's attention and he investigated, told them they were being removed, delt with appeals/any blow back from the branch and then scheduled a visit to handle it..... Ir did he just go gun slinger and handle it and say screw procedure...

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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

by ToesUp in

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friends

a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

visit.

this occurred 3 months ago.

_Morpheus

I dont intend to beat a dead horse, especially over something none of us can definitely speak to, but i totally agree with sir. In my experiance as an elder thats exactly what indecisive means. Its very easy to say "follow the money" but that overlooks the reality of day to day life in the cult. Its simply NOT always about the money, even for CO's. Even at bethel. There is the day to day grind to keep people in line, to control them, that makes it a cult. Again, just my .02 and i can prove nothing.

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so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?

by sowhatnow in

obviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .

and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.

add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.

_Morpheus

Pioneering is the preferred career but bethelite is also acceptable.

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Matthew 24:19-21

by Pete Zahut in

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but woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!

and pray that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath for then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.. this scripture was always used to frighten us about the upcoming great tribulaton.

when i was in high school my late mother found out she was pregnant with my youngest sister.

_Morpheus

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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

by ToesUp in

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friends

a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

visit.

this occurred 3 months ago.

_Morpheus

Blondie is on point, as usual. While common sense would suggest that other local elders would be wary of this situation or perhap sympathize and respectfully decline to move in, history says there is a line around the block of willing company men to step in and look good here. Whatever the reason for their removal (and im far from convinced it was money), there will be plenty of other elders waiting to jump in.

as one poster is fond of saying: lets review: its a cult.

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What's Your Favorite Perfume or Cologne?

by minimus in

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it is xmas time and perfumes and colognes are on the list.

what do you really love for a scent if you were being given a gift?.

_Morpheus

"Eternity" on a woman has been known to give me a woody at 50yards

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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

by ToesUp in

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friends

a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

visit.

this occurred 3 months ago.

_Morpheus

@apo, your confusionay be due to the fact that Reversal is not a current term/procedure. Many years ago it was but now there is a 7 day window after a JC decides to DF. In that 7 day window no annoucment is made. If someone appeals elders from different congregations hear the case, in so far as the appellant states there are grounds. If the appeal committee upholds the decision then an annoucment is made And it is considered final. There is no such thing as a reversal (anymore) because there was an appeal process. If the appeal comittee cannot decide they also can reach out to the CO or the branch directly.

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Solomon's Temple was there one??

by Crazyguy in

its interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.

what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??

there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.

_Morpheus

Indeed it is, as the link clearly shows :) definatly worth reading

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Solomon's Temple was there one??

by Crazyguy in

its interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.

what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??

there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.

_Morpheus

Here is an excerpt from an excellent thread reasonomg on this very thing. Link to the thread afterwards. Well worth a read:

Solomon’s temple was a lot smaller than most people picture it. 1 Kings 6:2 tells us that it was 60 cubits long, 20 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. In a rare example of biblical precision, 2 Chronicles 3:3 gives exactly the same measurements. A cubit is 17.5 inches, so the temple would have been 87.5’ x 29’, and about 4 stories high. It would total 2,552 square feet in area. To put this in perspective, it would be less than twice the size of my house, but four stories high. This number is very important, so keep it in mind.

The total temple area was larger than simply the “house of the LORD”. There was a courtyard, a palace, and other buildings. However, as we will soon see, the contents and value are out by at least a factor of a thousand, so, a few extra buildings are hardly significant.

The Gold and Silver
“With great pains I have provided for the house of the LORD, a hundred thousand talents of gold, a million talents of silver, and bronze and iron without weighing, for there is so much of it; timber and stone, too, I have provided.” - 1 Chronicles 22:14

Since 1 talent = 75.5 pounds, this means that 7.55 million pounds of gold and 75.5 million pounds of silver went into the temple - a total of 83.05 million pounds of precious metal. Now, remember the size of the temple. To get this much gold and silver into the temple, there must have been 32,543 pounds of it per square foot. The priest must have had to crawl over the heaps of gold to get to the alter.

Here’s another interesting tidbit. One cubic foot of silver weighs 628.4 pounds. This means that the silver of the temple occupied 120,146 cubic feet. The total gross size of the temple was only 111,650 cubic feet. Therefore, if the silver of the temple was formed into a solid block, it would be bigger than the temple itself - never mind the gold, iron, bronze, timber, and stone.

In addition to the gold and silver, there was apparently so much bronze and iron that it could not even be weighed. Since the gold and silver weighed in at 83 million pounds, that means that the bronze and iron must have weighed considerably more (I will assume that it was double). We are now looking at somewhere in the range of 100,000 pounds of metal per square foot of the temple. That is the equivalent weight of 40 full size cars per square foot. And we haven’t even gotten to the rock and timber, yet.

The gold and silver equates to a dollar value of $54 Billion today. Even given the inflated population figures of Israel that are recorded in the Bible, it still means that every man, woman, and child in the nation contributed almost $20,000, or 40 pounds of gold and silver. In all likelihood, the population of Israel was only about 1/10 of the Biblical figures, so the contribution per person would have been approximately 10 times higher. And, of course, we have not costed the iron, bronze, rock, timber, and labour. Not bad for a group of poor desert farmers.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/154236/2/The-Atheists-Book-of-Bible-Stories