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  BLOOD!

  by woodland in

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  sorry to bring up this old chestnut, but?

  have the jw?s changed their stance on blood transfusions?

  i was talking to a lady at work that has jw relatives, and she said it was now a matter of conscience.

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  Sorry Jula71, didn?t mean to be so presumptuous!
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  BLOOD!

  by woodland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry to bring up this old chestnut, but?

  have the jw?s changed their stance on blood transfusions?

  i was talking to a lady at work that has jw relatives, and she said it was now a matter of conscience.

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  Thank goodness for that. I wasn?t convinced when my colleague told me. The organisation would have blood flowing from their hands if they were to change their stance on this after so many years?. Jula71, you are obviously a girl in the know! J
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  BLOOD!

  by woodland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry to bring up this old chestnut, but?

  have the jw?s changed their stance on blood transfusions?

  i was talking to a lady at work that has jw relatives, and she said it was now a matter of conscience.

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  woodland

  Sorry to bring up this old chestnut, BUT?

  Have the JW?s changed their stance on blood transfusions?

  I was talking to a lady at work that has JW relatives, and she said it was now a matter of conscience.

  Many thanks
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  What first gave you doubts ?

  by rick1199 in

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  2. experiences

  we all know the big problems with the wts, but what was the first thing that made you realise there were problems with the organisation ?

  with me it was realitivly small stuff like an 8 year old getting baptised and a comment my best mates made about another of our friends asking if we should be hanging round with her as she might be bad assciation (she had just been reproved, but they had been mates 20 years).. .

  how ever the first time i ever thought something was really wrong was when i was about 11 and my grand farther died, and mu mum wouldn't go to the funeral, i remeber thinking that surely it was better to say good bye properly than worry about if the service was in a church.. .

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  I vividly remember laughing internally from the age of 5yrs. Nothing against the Americans? put the religion is completely American! As a British person, I was never going to be able to relate to a character in a biblical play called Randy, or listen to the My Book of Bible Stories tape narrated with an American drawl. Also, the language used in the literature was so simple, obviously intended for the uneducated (that was my opinion as a 7 year old learning to read!!!). I don?t feel that I every truly believed it. Rather, it was the environment that I found myself, so knew no different. I wouldn?t say I had doubts, more a feeling that this isn?t real. It?s make-believe. I never truly got down with the beliefs, but as at that time, I didn?t have any better ideas, so stuck with it until I was 18yrs. In the end I decided rather than waiting for something to come along that I could accept as Truth, it would be best for me to reject what I saw as pure fabrication, so I disassociated myself. I?ve been doing the same every since; deciding what I can?t put my faith in, rather than searching for something I can believe. My life has gone from strength to strength, and now I can say that I KNOW WHO I AM? something that totally eluded me during my experience of BEING a JW.
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  Note to the blind ones (anti-apostasy)

  by Razor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice a lot of anti-jehovah's witenesses post here so i will speak my peace.

  2 peter 3:3 .

  "for you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires" .

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  I think Razor is sweet really. I remember having arguments with people about the blood issue and abortion etc. when I was at school. I was totally convinced that I was right, and they were wrong?

  It?s only when you grow up that you realise this world isn?t black and white? it?s grey, a bit like the British weather!

  I?m afraid no one is right all the time Razor: not you, not us, not your Mum and Dad and not the Jehovah?s Witnesses. We?re all just as imperfect and sinful as each other, and my darling, we?re all going to die? Going to meetings and having fanatical ideas and fanciful hopes for the future isn?t going to save you from nature.

  Just keep in mind that such a pious attitude will not get you far in life and will make you lead a very narrow and confined existence.
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  Is it respectful to call God by name?

  by woodland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just wondering what your views were about calling god jehovah.

  i appreciate that there is scriptures that says to call on his name, but if i were to meet the queen or president bush it would grossly disrespectful to say hi there elizabeth or how you doing george.

  if this is the case with mere men and women in positions of power, is it not imaginable to address god on first name terms?

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  Hi All

  I was just wondering what your views were about calling God Jehovah. I appreciate that there is scriptures that says to call on his name, but if I were to meet the Queen or President Bush it would grossly disrespectful to say Hi there Elizabeth or How you doing George.

  If this is the case with mere men and women in positions of power, is it not imaginable to address God on first name terms?

  And with this in mind, what do you think of a group of people calling themselves Jehovah?s Witnesses?
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  Do u know any JW"s that have suicided?

  by Rick Aust in

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  sorry if this is a sad question, but i know of 3 jw's that have suicided.

  i haven't known any personally, but i was wondered if you know any or know of any jw's that have suiced?

  and do you know the reason why?

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  My father committed suicide when I was 13 yrs. He was a JW all his life. I don?t blame the religion because I believe to commit suicide (not just an attempt, which is a cry for help), indicates mental illness.

  But, for us, his family, it was awful. We were not allowed to hold his funeral at a Kingdom Hall, although over 200 people turned up at the crematorium. The Brother giving the talk was not allowed to mention the resurrection hope, and we were made aware that suicide in the eyes of God was a sin. Subsequently, the Org changed their tone in the mid-90?s when loads of Brothers and Sisters were suffering with depression.

  Many people wouldn?t mention Dad to us (my sisters and I), and some wouldn?t let their children sit with us at assembles/meetings anymore or come to our house to play. Some adults told their children that they were not to associate with us anymore.

  Dad being ill and killing himself made me an immediate BAD ASSOCIATION!

  I?m not bitter, just disappointed from a humanist point of view that people could be so crawl to children under such difficult circumstances.
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  A Perfect Organisation?

  by woodland in

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  my mum always says that she is an imperfect person within a perfect organisation.

  now, what i do not understand is by her own admission she is imperfect, in fact, we all are.

  so, how can imperfect humans create a perfect organisation?

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  My Mum always says that she is an imperfect person within a perfect organisation. Now, what I do not understand is by her own admission she is imperfect, in fact, we all are. So, how can imperfect humans create a perfect organisation? Also, she says that this system of things is ran by Satan, in which case we are all in submission to Satan. None of us has the power to go head-to head with Satan, so what?s the point in trying?

  Thoughts?
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  The lost congregation, or something else?

  by spiritwalker in

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  while i have seen on many occasions the benefit of sharing our past problems, or life, with others who have been through the same.

  i am very curious as to what the real benefit would be, to leaving a religion of such control and segregated thinking, only to venture online or in person to others who are basically a lost congregation of the religion.

  does it benefit a person to seek out former jehovah's witnesses?

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  Been There: Please elaborate what you mean when you say that you have seen people hurt here.
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  Have you been able to make up for the lost years?

  by woodland in

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  2. experiences

  i feel that my education was stunted due to the jw belief that education is not important.

  as a result i have not been able to follow my dreams, or follow the career i?m sure i was put on this earth to do.

  does anyone else feel this way?

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  Frank, Bono is the lead singer of U2!!!

  I guess because education was not deemed important when I was young I didn?t give much thought to what I wanted to do. A few of you made the comment that it?s never too late, and I agree. It?s very difficult trying to decide what you?re going to be when you grow up, when you?re well on the way to being a grown up!