on another thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/190929/1/jws-say-worldly-people-are-better-off-dead, undisfellowshipped posted this:.
our kingdom ministry, september 1992:.
what will you do if an attorney or a judge asks you why you are refusing a lifesaving transfusion for your child?
Check out the footnote to that article:
Only when there is a present, ongoing emergency which, in the doctor’s opinion, requires immediate attention may treatments deemed necessary to the child’s life or health (including blood transfusions) be lawfully provided without either parental or judicial consent. Of course, a physician must be accountable when he relies on this emergency power in the law.
on another thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/190929/1/jws-say-worldly-people-are-better-off-dead, undisfellowshipped posted this:.
our kingdom ministry, september 1992:.
what will you do if an attorney or a judge asks you why you are refusing a lifesaving transfusion for your child?
This follows:
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What the court needs to know is that, although you are refusing blood on deeply held religious grounds, youarenotrefusingmedicalcare. The judge needs to see that you are not neglectful or abusive parents but, rather, loving parents who want their child treated. You simply do not agree that the alleged benefits of blood outweigh its potentially lethal hazards and complications, especially when medical alternatives that do not carry these risks are available.
i have been reading augusts watchtower between simulations today, and i stumbled upon some funny stuff in augusts watchtower.
first off - the author of the second article makes a bold move by referring to ancient watchtowers.
from the first page:.
No carefull student of the bible can fail to be impressed with the stress that is laid on the death of christ", stated the fouth issue of this magazine back in october 1879. That article concluded on a serious note: "Let us beware of anything that belittles, or sets aside the death of christ, as the offering and propitiations for sin.
Found in The Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence Vol.1 pages 42 par.14 and page 43 par.22
2 samuel 7:3...nathan said to the king, "go and do all that is in your mind, for yahweh is with you.. all other translations i have read, including the nwt, say "heart".
why did the jb use the word mind....?.
Check out this site, I hope it helps as well
hubby told me that a mob of dubs got out of a mini van across from our house while i was at work yesterday (why do they always come when i am not home?).
an older brother and his son saw him in garage and came up to talk.
hubby being the polite guy he is, just listened.. hubby told him about my background and why i left.
Me thinks they got the wrong "Franz". LOL
one thing this site has made me reflect on the baptism practice in jw land.. many of us were raised in the religion, thus you were given the pressure early on to shoot for baptism as a goal.. i remember feeling bad because i waited until the ripe old age of 14 to take the plunge.. looking back, i realize that when i was 14, i didnt even know what my favorite color was, let alone have enough knowledge to make a life altering decision.
yet, growing up in that climate, i would say anyone who waited past their early teens to get baptised was viewed with great suspicion and was likely to be viewed as "bad association".
kids who took the dip at 8-9 years of age were viewed as "wise beyond their years" and the like.. how old were some of you when you were baptised, and what are your feelings on the matter?.
I just turned 14 when I was baptized. Who here remembers the "Lamp" book?? lol That's where our baptism questions came from.
my two favourites are.-.
a) lynyrd skynyrd "one more from the road".
b) genesis "seconds out".
Fania Allstars Live at Yankee Stadium
how many of you actually read the watchtower and awake magazines from cover to cover when you were in?.
ld.
Just the study articles and the life stories.
i have read that fred franz said armageddon would come by/in 2000.... been through search and the cd library but other than quotes of how bad the world will be by then, i cant seem to find anything.. any help?.
oz.
I also have the single issue of Jan.1, 1989, and it too states: "completed in our 20th century".
my dad,an elder for 25plus years,concentration camp survivor,the works,died in a few weeks ago.i am df'd but have been the only one who helps him and my mum.my jw sister couldnt give a rats ass about them.i was at my mom and dads house after he died,helping my mom with everyting,hell,id been there for 2 months because i was afraid to leave them alone.i knew my dad wasnt feeling well.guess he was worse than i realized.he died.the witnesses came in droves.small kitchen.im sitting at the table.they not only didnt speak to me,but they didnt even acknowledge that i was in the room,about day 3,i stopped answering the door..one "lady" called.sister carol.when i answered the phone she hesitated and said",now you know,i caint tawk to yew"{strong southern accent.ala elie may clampett}"you orta let cher mawma ainser the phone.
"i told her to bite me and hung up on her...same here,when we got back home.i hate these people with the fury of a thousand suns,but for some reason,i am now in possession of some great elders notes.been laying low,but im going to start posting the juicy stuff.just cause itd be nice for calvin to know that he was seen "dancing recklessly" at a wedding and that sister renee was being councied for her weight and still insisted on gaining more.also that sister e wasnt giving her husband his "due"..{yik}and that certain concetration camp survivors were being coerced into saying that they were jw's at the time of incarceration.but one wouldnt.my dad refused to play their game,and as a result he was asked to step down as an elder at age of 80.that and that he refused to shun me.his notes have been very enlightening..nice folks thise jw's,no?
they were so mean to my dad, he really believed this crap,and tried to do the right thing.but because he wouldnt dance their way,and turn me,his favorite person{and he was mine|into the cold they treated him badly and mocked him and even his accent.i hate them.really.any ideas?the local elder here,just asked my mom about her financial situation...grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
My condolences to you and your mom. I've been contemplating how events will go when my parents pass on(there're up in age and haven't been doing to well). My father has been a elder for almost 40 years,so I'm expecting the same treament from their friends and family.
