when the pearl jam single i am mine came out a little over a year ago, i was still a witness.
it's easy to see why the lyrics appealed to me at a time when i was subconsciously trying to free myself from the mind control.. i know that i was born and i know that i?ll die.. the in between is mine.. i am mine.. .... we?re different behind the eyes, there?s no need to hide .
.... the sorrow grows bigger when the sorrow's denied.. i only know my mind.. i am mine.. freedom has been a gradual process.
cool pic!! you guys are really coming out Euph and Piph!!!
Big Tex.. actually Texans are my favorite people... you just never know.. although I am usually more south in the Austin area.
never mind about my question about witness world.. I think I found it.. and there is no way I want to be there... the very ones who have SHUNNED me for thinking about even questioning the JWs are there.. ones telling me to go slit my wrists or blow my head off.. I have NO interest in being part of their world!
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...........especially if someone comes here to tell us why we're wrong in our thinking??
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I don't think that most who come here as SINCERE JWs to ARGUE.. aren't going to listen to anything you have to say..
when I first came here (not as a lurker looking for apostates infiltrating JW boards) but when I came here for "ME".. I came here because I had stopped going to the hall and although I didn't come to here to learn why JWs were wrong, because I thought they weren't, but that I just was putting my life in order to die because I wasn't going to be one, but I came here to keep companionship I was losing by stopping being a JW. The last thing I still wanted to read was why the JWs were not the true religion... what touched me was the other threads.. not the total fluff threads although I enjoyed them a lot.. but the small ones, ones that might seem unimportant but where people talked about their feelings when being a JW. I can't tell you how much a connection I immediately felt with the others here. They understood things about myself that maybe in some ways I hadn't even admitted out loud.. then it gave me time after a while to relect and sit back and think WAIT.. this isn't right? this isn't love? this isn't the mark Jesus said his followers would have.. and THEN.. much later I began to feel ready to read about doctrines..
so never think that you have no effect in the threads talking about feelings, about things that are not directly saying the JWs are not right but instead touches on those things that are from being a JW.. that was how you all got me subtly.. and after that my eyes were ready to really be opened.
it's so sad sometimes to see people question anothers happiness.
there have been posts made about good things happening to our fellow posters here.
posters questioning good fortune and happiness.
I know how you mean.. I have seen that too.. I had someone tell me some good news privately not long ago, because this person said if it was posted, most likely it would have been made lightly or placed a cloud over it.. which I found sad unfortunately but I couldn't deny it was possible.. I personally love good news and like to support those with it!
i must clear my conscience.
i watched this movie the other day even after swearing, on this board i might add, i would never watch it due to the fact that the maker roman palanski is a child abuser.. ok, throw your stones now if you must.
lol.
We heard all through the years how much burden is off of those who come out of Christendom and do not have to fear hellfire, etc etc..
but what do they think they put us through preparing us for dealing with persecution ahead for JWs. I was so scared for my children as well as myself. My ex husband and I even hid a bible in the sheetrocked wall of our remodel job to make sure we had one incase our literature was confiscated.. ironic that neither of us are witnesses any more..
what freedom now not to be so afraid. Not to watch a movie and think, that is what we have ahead.. I used to think those people who died in natural death faithful JWs were lucky because they didn't have the hell we had ahead..
when the pearl jam single i am mine came out a little over a year ago, i was still a witness.
it's easy to see why the lyrics appealed to me at a time when i was subconsciously trying to free myself from the mind control.. i know that i was born and i know that i?ll die.. the in between is mine.. i am mine.. .... we?re different behind the eyes, there?s no need to hide .
.... the sorrow grows bigger when the sorrow's denied.. i only know my mind.. i am mine.. freedom has been a gradual process.
forgive my curiousity, but is there any chance others from the Zone will make over the wall?
ahhhh.. yess Big Tex.. ME (the one your family sent a Secret Santa present to this year!)
by the way.. what and where is Witness World?? I've never heard of it???
how did i spend my new years eve?
with a bunch of drunk jehovahs witnesses, that's how!
my best friend -- who hasn't been to a meeting in three months and has referred to isaiah books i and ii as "shit" -- has connections with the outer periphery of the organization's young folk.
They are suicidal because they all think they will pay w their lives for what they are having fun doing.
that is so on the mark. I can remember having fun and then feeling so guilty... even feeling guilty WHILE doing so..
sure feels good to be enlightened and enjoy life without guilt
can someone tell me the first song number of the service meeting as listed in the october 2003 kingdom ministry for the week of the 27th?
no particular reason
are you trying to join a site such as JW Singles?
how did i spend my new years eve?
with a bunch of drunk jehovahs witnesses, that's how!
my best friend -- who hasn't been to a meeting in three months and has referred to isaiah books i and ii as "shit" -- has connections with the outer periphery of the organization's young folk.
I can't say what I went to too many 'parties' with a lot of drinking with witnesses, except those in my own home with ex hubby years ago... except maybe the group of witnesses we ran with in the late 70s before we got married. Now those people have WINE parties and are all stuffy.. they'd die rather than spend any time with someone who 'left the truth'..
I did go to some kicking' drinkin' 'JW' db parties out in CAli though.. I seem to recall there was even a lap dance going on at one of them (or so I heard.. I was out in the backyard making out with one of the brothers).. I got home and thought damn.. those witnesses out in Cali can party and have a good time!!
i had a talk with my best friend (who is still an active jw) the other day, and told her that i wasn't interested in remaining an active witness any more.
i knew she would accept my feelings, because she's a wonderful person and is actually very emotionally healthy, but was afraid because i didn't really know how tight a grip the mind control had on her, and didn't know if she would feel obligated to back off in our friendship any.
i was deeply afraid of that, because we're as close, if not closer than, sisters.. to my pleasant surprise, she not only totally accepted my feelings, but she already knew what i was going to say before i said it.
Amazing how my friends threads are all being 'brought to a resurrection' recently.. tee hee..
I think Piph, we have been learning together at the same time who our true friends are.. Its been an enlightenment to see what friendship means to JWs and how far they really will go for us if we leave the WTS. Fortunately now that we have no one telling us we cannot have friends in the 'world'... there is a wider selection of people to love and be loved by!! And you know I am here for ya! Can't wait for you and Dan to pass through the area and share more in person time with!
i must clear my conscience.
i watched this movie the other day even after swearing, on this board i might add, i would never watch it due to the fact that the maker roman palanski is a child abuser.. ok, throw your stones now if you must.
lol.
I saw this movie when it first came out. I must admit, I wasn't really sure what it was even about. I had gotten tickets to see it free so I went with a friend. I wasn't surprised it received the praise it did although I found it long and depressing. It really wasn't my type of movie, but at the same time I couldn't help but respect the acting and work in the story and of course the story itself takes your breath away that one could survive under such ordeals. I always thought about persecution coming and living under such horrendous things for JWs, (I was still then although inactive, still considering myself a witness when I saw it... so those things always scared me for things ahead)
