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  The 1919 issue

  by confused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am not a regular visitor to this site, every now and then then i get twisted up about something i come back lol.

  i am sure this has been discussed many times so a link to another thread would be great or if someone has the patience to explain again please?

  i have read the july 15 2013 wt many times but i simply don't understand the significance of 1919 from the bible.

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  OrphanCrow

  Pick an event, find a scripture to make is so.

  The "event' in 1919 that the WTS tries so desperately to say is a Biblical event, was simply that the WTS bought their own printing presses that year. 1919 was the year that the WTS truly owned their own production method - they "owned" the "word".

  Ever since 1919, the WTS has tried to justify this earthshaking event by ascribing Biblical interpretation to it when all that happened was a financial maneuver.

  Wm Hudgings, when speaking at the Cedar Point convention in 1919, revealed that the reason the WTS KNEW that God had blessed them that year, was because of....the significance of the number "7" in the events that led up to 1919.
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  Pioneer Service School Adjustment for 2014

  by bnybyt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the pioneer service school will now be only one week, monday thru saturday.. it will consist of 40 hours of instruction and illustrations/presentations.. the reasong given is that this will make it more accessible to the pioneers for due to work schedules and for congregations having to sponsor and support the school.. it will make it easier on everyone and those who haven't attended in the last five years may be able to attend this school with the new curriculum.. .

  what do you feel would be included in the new curriculum.

  probably more worship of the governing body and they don't need two whole weeks to get this across.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  Oh. Sweet.

  Now when they make up their Linkedin profiles, they can add 40 hours of 'Pioneer School' to their education levels. They just have to stay current on the Awake magazine and they will be fully educated.

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  WT Conspiracy Theory - Pinky Ring - DUMB, I know

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.

  i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .

  original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.

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  Morpheus: @crow- if they made those for men i would buy ten

  Geez, I don't know why I didn't pick up on that Ringlys are for women! Duh.

  Eh...maybe the GB are doing test runs for the men's model that is promised to be out soon. You know, like Rutherford did with that radium belt he used to wear.

  Or, maybe the GB really do like 'girly' things, after all. Pinky rings are so...umm...you know...not very masculine. I would think that a pinky ring would rank right up there with tight pants and spandex. :p
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  guy says he's not guilty of murder because victim refused blood transfusion that could've saved him

  by Question_Mans_interpretation in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wonder if the guy will get off the hook for murder since the jw died during surgery that he refused blood for.

  http://www.fresnobee.com/2015/05/15/4526968/did-fresno-shooting-victims-religious.html.

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  This case has similarities to one that happened in California in 1998. In that situation, a drunk driver hit a JW woman, she refused blood and died. The state tried to convict him of murder, but the jury assigned blame for her death equally. The drunk driver got ten years for manslaughter.

  http://amarillo.com/stories/1998/12/19/usn_ddriver.shtml#.VVqL0rlViko

  There is a good discussion about the case, and the legal dilemmas that it posed, on this site here:

  http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9928.htm
  
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  WT Conspiracy Theory - Pinky Ring - DUMB, I know

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.

  i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .

  original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.

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  OrphanCrow

  Geez...the rings are Ringlys. When the light flashes on them, it looks like a triangle.

  No Masonic sign. Just light bouncing off a cut stone.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5c06ayfTYs
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  ...Welcome To The Official Illuminati Website...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. social
  2. current

  .. i`ve just come across this... welcome to the official illuminati website.

  .................. click the link below... illuminati official website - illuminatiofficial.org | contact or .... .. is it real?.....is it bogus?....is it a joke?...

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  OrphanCrow

  Cantleave, you should receive another email from the website in a couple more days. You will be required to answer questions. The answers can be found in...tada!...a book that you have to buy. It is just another publishing scam.

  https://charliekb.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/illuminiat-i-am-not/#comments
  

  Out of curiosity I emailed them, and then got an email back from 'Thaddeus Iam', saying that my membership was being reviewed.
  Fast forward a couple of days and I received another email in which they explained that to complete my membership, I had to answer a couple of questions that related to 'Illumination: The First Testament of the Illuminati', unfortunately for them I’m not willing to spend £10 on idle curiosity. However had the book come with a free bottle of wine or a coupon for a free packet of Dairylea or something then I might have bought it.
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  WT Conspiracy Theory - Pinky Ring - DUMB, I know

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.

  i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .

  original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.

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  OrphanCrow

  Are the rings the GB wear 'Ringlys'?

  The rings come in different colors...

  https://ringly.com/
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  ...Welcome To The Official Illuminati Website...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. social
  2. current

  .. i`ve just come across this... welcome to the official illuminati website.

  .................. click the link below... illuminati official website - illuminatiofficial.org | contact or .... .. is it real?.....is it bogus?....is it a joke?...

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  OrphanCrow

  Outlaw: Is It Real?.....Is It Bogus?....Is it a Joke?..

  What is real about this is that thousands of people think it is.

  The believers are real people. The website and Facebook page are handy in that those people are now identified.

  Isn't the internet a fascinating place? So malleable. And so effective at gathering like minded individuals together. I wonder who is interested in identifying those 'dissidents' who believe in the Illuminati?
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  "The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

  by Alive! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

  really?

  and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

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  Brother Jeramy: It is telling because this form of casting of aspersions is the same tactic the Governing Body employs, namely they call people deluded, either by inference or at times directly, who do not see things their way or who do things contrary to their will.
  So, then, what's the difference if the Governing Body does this or if former Jehovah's Witnesses do it?

  The answer is simple. There is a huge imbalance of power between the two positions.

  The Governing Body does it to take power away from the members and to feed the WTS' need for control. They abuse their power.

  The exJWs do it to gain their personal power back. EXJWs are entitled to their own power.

  Big difference.

  Comparing the two positions is comparing apples and oranges.
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  outside consulting firm used for JW building site , to be complete in 2019.

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  crofton wins key role on jehovah's witnesses campus.

  6 may 2015 | by yoosof farah.

  engineer lands role on scheme that will predominantly be designed and constructed by volunteers.

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  OrphanCrow

  It's a big project but definitely not worth the amount of money grabbing from the collection of congregation bank accounts and the sale of many KH's, Circuit Assembly Halls, and the Brooklyn properties. Add to that the scam of forgiving loans but not forgetting a monthly contribution of equal or higher amount than the loan used to be.

  Well...the WTS spends very little on 'charitable' activities. They have to come up with ways to spend money that are acceptable expenditures to the taxman in order to retain their 'charitable' status. The WTS is spending money on 'acceptable' buildings because they don't really do charity - they 'teach literacy' and 'provide Bibles'. All activities that justify new buildings.

  Has anyone looked into this 'outside consulting firm'? How 'outside' is Crofton Consulting Engineers? Are there any JW connections within the firm? The WTS is usually all about patronage.