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  Google Ranking sites by trustworthiness

  by enigma1863 in

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  have you heard about this?

  in the future google might sort website links by how accurate the information is.

  it would definitely put the jw.org website near the bottom of the list.. http://mediamatters.org/embed/static/clips/2015/03/06/38933/fnc-hn-20150306-morano.

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  It is not censorship.

  Turning over the ranking system to an entity like Google makes it very vulnerable to powerful entities influencing those rankings.

  Money talks and bullshit walks.
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  50th anniversary of "Bloody Sunday" -- WHAT???

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  take a look at the linked ap photograph and tell me what you think:.

  - miss black u.s., miss black georgia and miss black teen .

  what would the likes of al sharpton say if the hallowed event this weekend at the edmund pettus bridge in selma, alabama had been attended by a miss white u.s., miss white georgia and miss white teen?

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  Simon: I think the only fact that makes it remotely acceptable is that it's a minority group.

  That is exactly why groups of people marginalized have separate competitions. It is because the white majority (by majority - I mean the majority of power) take up too much space and are based on white-privilege standards. The separate competitions are designed to allow space for those who are discriminated against in the general population.

  I personally think it is negative because it just reinforced differences and promotes that idea that skin-color-based discrimination is acceptable.

  That idea, "that skin-based discrimination is acceptable", is already prevalent in the population at large. If that idea wasn't already there, these "skin-based" competitions wouldn't be necessary.

  *And about the use of the term "Bloody Sunday" - I was somewhat confused - I thought this thread was about events 110 years ago in 1905 - I didn't know that "Bloody Sunday" was being appropriated by the black population. I guess I can learn something new every day.
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  Google Ranking sites by trustworthiness

  by enigma1863 in

  1. social
  2. current

  have you heard about this?

  in the future google might sort website links by how accurate the information is.

  it would definitely put the jw.org website near the bottom of the list.. http://mediamatters.org/embed/static/clips/2015/03/06/38933/fnc-hn-20150306-morano.

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  OrphanCrow

  Oh my.

  What could possibly go wrong?

  Big Brother, indeed. Now a person can just turn over their brains to the Big Google God in the CyberSky.

  Ranking on the internet translates into high censorship.

  I do not think this is a good idea. Not at all.
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  Watchtower Strains Local Town Budgets

  by pontoon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486

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  DataDog: If they would continue to mainstream; clean up the Pedo issues, and do some actual charity, then I could almost contemplate remaining a dub. If they did those things, they would more closely resemble all other Xian sects.

  Yeah, then all you would have to do is ignore the doctrine that states everybody else except JWs are rotting bird food and only the JWs are elite - they are special.

  And, you might have to ignore the whacked out beliefs respecting blood. No other Xian sect has strange blood beliefs.
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  Watchtower Strains Local Town Budgets

  by pontoon in

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  http://www.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486

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  There are good reasons why religious organizations received tax exemptions from the federal and state governments, said Zaino. They generally contribute to the local community by providing a place of worship and by serving the homeless.

  But...who are the 'homeless' that the Watchtower are 'serving'? Are the homeless all those worker drones that get free housing and food inside the WTS compound? Because, the Watchtower certainly doesn't serve homeless people unless they are wearing a blue badge.

  And that is another thing. Do the Watchtower workers have to declare their food and housing as 'taxable income'? I worked on a crew once that supplied food at lunch time. I had to pay tax on what the food was worth.

  
  

  
  
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  The floodgates are about to open in the UK.. Sunday Times article

  by defender of truth in

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  jehovah church faces flood of sex abuse cases.

  "a woman who was abused from the age of four by a senior officer of the jehovahs witnesses has lodged a 500,000 claim for compensation in a test case that could open the door to hundreds more suits involving members of the religious organisation in the uk.".

  http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/crime/article1525363.ece.

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  I like that they call it "Jehovah church" lol... not even an attempt to call them by the proper name.
  Brilliant!, they don't deserve that legitimacy.

  I don't think that the 'proper name' is the same as it is for the rest of the world than it is for that tiny little wee group of people who think that dotting "i"'s and crossing "t"'s is where accuracy is at.

  For 'the rest of the world', the JWs are a "church". It is what the rest of the world uses for language when talking about a religious group who meet together in buildings. "Jehovah's Witnesses", with all their colloquial language and cultic 'correctness', are the ones who fail to get it 'right'.

  Just because you have encountered everyday, real world language in this article, does not give you the legitimacy to ridicule the contents of it.

  *I am sorry - I re-read the post you made...I think you may have been referring to the illegitimacy of the JWs...I think I read your post wrong. I apologize!
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  Russian Court Denounces Jehovah's Witnesses as 'Extremist'-- The Moscow Times Mar. 04 2015

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "a court in southern russia has denounced a local organization of jehovah's witnesses as "extremist" and ordered it disbanded, the interfax news agency reported wednesday, in the latest in a long line of such rulings issued to the religious group in russia.. the group's building and surrounding land will be confiscated by the local government in the town of abinsk, krasnodar region, the court ruled.the group had been distributing publications titled "humanity in search of god" and "what does the bible really teach?

  " that were included in the federal list of extremist materials and are banned for distribution in the country, the news report said.

  http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/russian-court-denounces-jehovah-s-witnesses-as-extremist/517026.html.

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  BU2B Russia is correct to rule them extremist. However this is counter productive as it just feeds into the persecution complex of the cult members. Soviet Russia sent JWs to Siberia and they came out even stronger. Persecution actually strengthens the cult.

  Russia has a long and sordid history of 'Christian' cults that dates back to the very beginnings of the spread of Orthodox Christianity in Russia. For several centuries, the 'Word' was taught by semi-literate and or/illiterate monks who had wandered into the steppes of Russia and Siberia. These monks and religious adherents, fanatical in nature, would have at times, only a text or two of Biblical text memorized, and from that, they would build a whole following of uneducated people. What resulted was fragmented, strange cults that practiced just as strange rituals. Odd sexual practices were common among these cults.
  It was from this cultural background that Rasputin emerged in the early 1900s, just prior to the Russian revolution of 1917.. He was the monk credited with the downfall of the Romanov Empire.
  I think that the history of 'extremist cults' is just too recent in the Russian memory for them to accept another cult.
  
  
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  QUESTIONING THE OBVIOUS or deconstructing Jehovah's Witnesses

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the most obvious thing you can think of about jehovah's witnesses from the standpoint of worldwide recognition?.

  wouldn't it be 2 primary things: the name jehovah and secondly, the public testimony or witnessing?.

  let's begin deconstructing those two things.. first, why would christians refer to themselves by any other name than christian?.

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  looter: That "New Bible Study Method" (aka studying Zion's Watchtower Pubs) is plenarily unscriptural and was made to detract people from the bible but to lead them to untruth from Russell.

  Yes. In that sense, the roots of the JW movement is 'apostate' in nature.

  Finkelstein: Maybe the obvious should contained in the fact that the JW organization is really a expansive and connecting religious literature company and that the Kingdom Halls are really its own sales representative training centers.

  One of the best conceptualizations/descriptions that I have read of what the Jehovah's Witness community actually is, comes from an anthropologist, Dr. Jena Bachus-Lichenstein. She did some amazing embedded research in a Mexican JW community. In her doctoral dissertation, she defined the JW community as a 'textual community', rather than a 'religion'.

  It is 'the text', the authoritative text that originates with the Watchtower Society, that binds and defines the JWs worldwide.

  I like Dr. Bachus-Lichenstein's definition. The Jehovah's Witnesses are a 'textual community'.
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  QUESTIONING THE OBVIOUS or deconstructing Jehovah's Witnesses

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the most obvious thing you can think of about jehovah's witnesses from the standpoint of worldwide recognition?.

  wouldn't it be 2 primary things: the name jehovah and secondly, the public testimony or witnessing?.

  let's begin deconstructing those two things.. first, why would christians refer to themselves by any other name than christian?.

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  Finkelstein
  Thinking reflectively its interesting how C T Russell was able to commercialize his opinions and turn them into what eventually become a world wide publishing house.

  I think that a lot of Russell's success can be traced to his financial concerns and investments that impacted his publishing company.

  The WT revisionist history paints Russell as a poor man who 'gave up all his earthly concerns'... or words to that effect. That is erroneous. Charles Russell's investments included interests in spin-off industries of paper production. For example, he owned shares in Brazilian Turpentine. Turpentine is a by-product of the paper making process. He also owned shares in a clay extracting company. Kaolin clay is used in the papermaking industry - it is what was used in the whitening process.

  Charles Russell was not the man who the WTS has presented him to be.
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  QUESTIONING THE OBVIOUS or deconstructing Jehovah's Witnesses

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the most obvious thing you can think of about jehovah's witnesses from the standpoint of worldwide recognition?.

  wouldn't it be 2 primary things: the name jehovah and secondly, the public testimony or witnessing?.

  let's begin deconstructing those two things.. first, why would christians refer to themselves by any other name than christian?.

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  Terry: THE MAGISTERIUM of the Church did not require "learning a script" of right Christian belief for 99% of Christians on earth for 1500 years.
  Going to Mass, confession, taking the bread and wine, being forgiven by the Priest . . . THAT was Christianity.
  Then, Martin Luther came along and the corruption of the political and religious Catholic institution lost its status.
  DENOMINATIONALISM was brought back!
  Protestantism is opinion-ism.
  Any hack with a Bible and folded hands can cook up a crazy religion (Mormons, JW's, you-name-it)...

  Martin Luther King, and the rise of Protestantism, owes everything to the invention of the printing press in the mid 1400s.

  It was the ability to control the "Word', and the ability to profit from the printed word, that allowed the Protestant movement to evolve into the corporate structure that fostered the likes of men like Charles Taze Russell.

  The printing press was the primary component that influenced the development of textual authority.

  "...and the Word was God."