Posts by OrphanCrow

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Scan Of Telegram To Hitler

by Bangalore in

scan of telegram to hitler.. .

bangalore.

OrphanCrow

Actually Hitler and the Nazi party were destroyed.
WT societies first prophecy to come true?

Not really. God didn't have much to do with that. A lot of men fighting and dying made that come about. Which, of course, the JWs had no part of.

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

Well, maybe you could say that once you figured out that the JWs are structured in exactly the same way as the Catholic Church's hierarchy - the GB are the same as the Pope - that you could not in good conscience continue to follow their teachings.

Women of the Watchtower

by OrphanCrow in

whatever happened to the five women that charles russell named as trustees for the voting shares he left to the watchtower society in his will?.

i have already donated to the watch tower bible and tract society all my voting shares therein, putting the same in the hands of five trustees, as follows: sr. e. louise hamilton; sr. almeta m. nation robison; sr. j. g. herr; sr. c. tomlins; sr. alice g. james.

these trustees shall serve for life.

OrphanCrow

Whatever happened to the five women that Charles Russell named as trustees for the voting shares he left to the Watchtower Society in his will?

I have already donated to the WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY all my voting shares therein, putting the same in the hands of five Trustees, as follows: Sr. E. Louise Hamilton; Sr. Almeta M. Nation Robison; Sr. J. G. Herr; Sr. C. Tomlins; Sr. Alice G. James. These Trustees shall serve for life. In event of deaths or resignations successors shall be chosen by the WATCH TOWER SOCIETY Directors and Editorial Committee and the remaining Trustees after prayer for Divine guidance.

http://www.pastor-russell.com/legacy/will_doc.html

There is much written about Russell's will and how Rutherford shouldered out those who didn't support him after Russell died. But, what about those 5 women? I think I have even read somewhere that those five women were seen as 'the Bride of Christ' by Russell and that they were the ones who would receive 'divine direction' from Russell after he died.

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IDEAL BATHROOMS

by TerryWalstrom in

jw
friends

i use to dream about designing a bathroom that was, well.

crazy.. today, i saw this photo and almost fell over.

obviously somebody else had the same dream!.

OrphanCrow

Lol!Terry - a bathroom like that would be a hit with kids. They wouldn't have to use the toilet - they could just pee on the floor!

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Are we going to see a mass awakening?

by kairos in

jw
friends

the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.

OrphanCrow

I've always known I'd be ostracized if I ever came out publicly as an "apostate", but it never occurred to me that JWs might actually be scared of me.

They are terrified of you, Vidiot. Terrified.

I saw the look of terror in a JW's eyes when I opened my door one day. Standing on the other side of my door were two JW women that I had never seen before - total strangers.

But, they knew who I was - the first thing out of the one woman's mouth was "Oh! We aren't supposed to call on you!" I was taken aback a bit and asked her how she knew who I was. She replied that I had "been pointed out to her" once in public. I guess I am now on the 'official apostate list'. I never received a return visit.

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WT now promoting literature officially at book fairs

by StarTrekAngel in

can there really be any doubt now on how commercial it is?

if you thought the new kh design seemed commercial in nature, now imagine one of those halls turned into a jw store.

we know they exist.

OrphanCrow

Hmmm. South America, eh?

The 'brothers' sure are active down there...Jw..org has quite the presence in those countries - far more than way up here in Canada. Maybe if we had more political unrest here the JWs would come out of the woodwork.

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Are we pro-shunning or against it?

by Simon in

just to continue my theme about religious freedom and how we approach criticizing the wts, i've also been thinking about 'shunning'.. i think shunning is the most unifying complaint that most ex-members of religious groups that practice it have in common.

it is the layer that runs under every other complaint - whatever the reason for leaving it seems "... and i was shunned" can be added to it as the final rap on the charge sheet.. of course it seems like a no-brainer to many of us and we hardly ever stop to really think about it - shunning is bad, the watchtower believes in shunning therefore the watchtower is bad.

they need to stop it.

OrphanCrow

Startrekangel, you make a valid point.

I don't think the issue is 'shunning' per se, but, rather, whether 'official shunning' should be in place.

Of course we all make decisions on who to associate with - it is normal human behavior. And, in so doing, we all shun to some extent. I do. I have many people I have made a personal decision to 'shun' (family members included). It is called 'keeping my environment safe'. And I have the right to do that. Personally.

BUT - does an organization have the right to shun? Or the right to tell its members who to shun?

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

OrphanCrow

You will never grow old in this current system of things.

Sweet. So that means that my mirror is lying. Maybe I am not getting wrinkles, after all.

Damn...I better buy a new mirror.

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Happy at Bethel. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

by Pubsinger in

apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.

OrphanCrow

vidiot: Sure, if they actually want to retain 7-8 million adherents.
I don't think that's as high a priority, these days.
In fact, I'd go so far as to say they'd rather the prune the R&F down to a more manageable size of, say, a million or so hard-core believers (maybe even less).

I would go that far, too, vidiot. I think the 'growth' propaganda is mythical. The WTS doesn't need a large following - they already are making a piss pot full of money in other ways like real estate and bloodless medicine investments. The recent push for donations from the membership quite simply separates those who are loyal to the organization from those who are not. The WTS would rather have a small, controllable membership than one that isn't loyal.

The WTS doesn't need a large membership.

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The difference between old school dubs and modern dubs - and the GB 2.0

by TheListener in

old school witnesses thrived on the fact they were different and persecuted for it.

it was a point of pride.. i think the whole witness experience is much more social based for younger and newer witnesses.

that may be why so many newer ones that come to this board cannot understand or accept some of the information we present here about how things "used to be".

OrphanCrow

vidiot: The WTS is overwhelmingly reactive, not proactive.

Unless, of course, you factor in the WTS' undeniable proactive behavior in the 30s and 40s concerning first amendment rights.

*to add: and...what about the WTS' proactive stance on blood? How many millions have they invested in promoting erroneous material to the public and the medical profession with their production of noblood propaganda?