Posts by paradisebeauty

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One hope for ALL christians - interesting video on heavenly hope

by paradisebeauty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7qe6fqac4.

a short video with proof from the bible that the ones going to "heaven" are not meant to stay there forever, but just to meet jesus there (at the rapture) and be with him forever, on earth, not in heaven!.

paradisebeauty

Cofty by all I meant all who accept Jesus Christ. Belief in Christ can save anyone from death. (I am sure you know this from the Bible). But why would anyone reject the free gift of everlasting life if they fully understand the idea of redemption and that Jesus died insted of us so we can have everlasting life?

And by the way, there are christian denomimations who understand that all you need is faith, believe and confess Jesus as Lord - aka the Son of God and redeemer of mankind. - Romans 10:9

They also say that true baptism is baptism in the holy spirit that you receive invisibley when you believe. When you truly believe in your heart and accept Jesus you are born again from God. You become child of God.

And there also are some denominations that say that you can not lose your salvation, since birth can not be undone. You remain your Father's child no matter what. Plus, they say all christians are a part of the body of christ so they say the body of Christ can not be amputated.

The reason they say this is because this was revealed in the sacred secret, after the resurection of Christ, it was revealed to Paul. He is the one who talks of the sacred secret. And they say we now live in the administration of the sacret secret. Salvation is by faith and grace now, unlike the mosaic law when it was by works.

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Why does the Almighty need a mediator?

by economy in

god is alike to all of his children, hence cannot elevate one child above all others just because one was brought into existence before others.

(ezekiel 18:4) someone has to be first-born which does not give him any superiority over others!

interestingly, jesus simply dismissed the whole idea of one being placed over the others as pagan.

paradisebeauty

Imagine your phone's battery is dying. A powerful nuclear reactor is near you. It's got all the energy you need but can you charge your phone from it?

No, you need a transformer.

I believe that God is such a force that people would really die if they saw God, or be in the presence as His full power. Just as God said to Moses. Noone can see me and live.

But you would expect from the creator of the universe to be so powerful!

The thing is we are humans and understand this material world where we live. The material world and the forces and energies we understand are between 3-5 % of the universe. The other 95-97% we have no idea about.

Similar with God, we say person because we are persons, and know what a person is but we can not even imagine or perceive his nature. Entity, spiritual being, inteligence. He reveald Himself to us through things we know and can understand. It is like explaining light or color to a person who was born blind.

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what an interesting find for me

by sowhatnow in

im sure to use this the next time i accidentally get sucked into an argument with someone.

im not ever understanding the idea behind any christian religion picking and choosing what they want to believe and follow, then have the nerve to claim they are right, when clearly this is obviously done.

here is a site that shows not only how bloodthirsty and evil the god of the hebrew bible was, but how more ridiculous it is for jws to follow one twisted 'commandment' about eating blood, not only reading it wrong, but then not to do all the other commandments, willingly , do they think they are ancient israelites ?

paradisebeauty

No, Saul did not show mercy. The following verse gives us a glimpse of the what Saul was after

But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep, the oxen, the fatlings, the lambs, and all that was good, and were unwilling to utterly destroy them. But everything despised and worthless, that they utterly destroyed.

God judges after what is in the heart. You can see above what was in Soul's heart.

I read at some point a very beautiful verse about resurection. I do not remember where in the Bible it was, but I will look for it. It said something like "I will restore all to whom I was unjust".

In this world where there is a woar between God and Satan and his angels, there are colateral damages. But I am sure God will be just to each person individualy. He has the ability of resurecting and giving another chance. For him death is not permament but a temporary break. We as human, see only what we have now, this life, and see death as an end. For Him it is not!

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Guess I said more than I should have about "the truth"

by paradisebeauty in

a sister came by my house today.

not to see how i was or why i have not been to meetings for the past months - she needed to borrow some money for the upcoming convention.

we chatted a little, and i cound not keep my mouth shut about some questions i have and some discoveries i made about the doctrine.

paradisebeauty

Billy, can't say that because I already loaned her the money.

But if she's gonna tell on me, when she'll come to bring me the money back I will tell her a a few words ... or maybe a "thank you for everything" will do ...

Anyway, she told me smth very strange. That they have been advised, when they read the bible the read not with the intention of getting information from it but when they read to only ask themselves "what do I learn about Jehovah"

I belive both are important. Learning about Yah and understanding the info.

But if they teach things like this I think they are starting to feel threatened even by the Bible. They are afraid of members asking themselves about the information the Bible really transmits

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what an interesting find for me

by sowhatnow in

im sure to use this the next time i accidentally get sucked into an argument with someone.

im not ever understanding the idea behind any christian religion picking and choosing what they want to believe and follow, then have the nerve to claim they are right, when clearly this is obviously done.

here is a site that shows not only how bloodthirsty and evil the god of the hebrew bible was, but how more ridiculous it is for jws to follow one twisted 'commandment' about eating blood, not only reading it wrong, but then not to do all the other commandments, willingly , do they think they are ancient israelites ?

paradisebeauty

@ sowhatnow

We need to understand that even though God does not change, over time he changed His requests for people. The rituals of the mozaic law were a simbol and pointed to Jesus and the way God was about to deal with christians. Here is more info on this:

http://www.truthortradition.com/articles/how-does-a-dispensational-administrational-view-of-scripture-help-to-resolve-apparent-bible-contradictions-2

@ Data Dog

You are right, this is their biggest misunderstanding. They try to mix mozaic law with christianity, but Jesus said he was the end of the law. After His death God revealed a new way of dealing with people, and He also reveald the Sacred Secret to Paul. This is something jw's do not get. They created a hybrid of from mozaic law and christianity. But this is not what God wants in the way He deals with us today, after the sacrifice of His Son.

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For Active Jehovah's Witnesses

by The Searcher in

this is a reminder for some, and fresh bible guidance for new arrivals to this site.. have you been "witnessing" today, or are you planning to?.

revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to jesus.".

acts 8:16 - ".......been baptized in the name of the lord jesus.".

paradisebeauty

Searcher, that is beautiful! Thank you for the research!

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Guess I said more than I should have about "the truth"

by paradisebeauty in

a sister came by my house today.

not to see how i was or why i have not been to meetings for the past months - she needed to borrow some money for the upcoming convention.

we chatted a little, and i cound not keep my mouth shut about some questions i have and some discoveries i made about the doctrine.

paradisebeauty

A sister came by my house today. Not to see how I was or why I have not been to meetings for the past months - she needed to borrow some money for the upcoming convention.

We chatted a little, and I cound not keep my mouth shut about some questions I have and some discoveries I made about the doctrine. I thought she was more open minded ....

She told me "we" need to talk to a brother in charge ... I told her I do not feel I need to talk to anyone in charge, that I need to do some more research by myself and I do not think they can tell me more than the wt library can...

But I have the feeling she will talk to one of them...

And I am thinking ... this kind of behavior reminds me of the comunist era in my country when you had to be careful of what you say, to whom, and you were always afraid someone might tell of you if you dared to say something not in compliance with the party's policy ...

Why do they view having your own opinions / different opinions on the same level as imorality, idolatry or other big sins. They somehow feel obliged to tell on someone who has different opinions like that person committed a sin or something....

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WHAT JESUS REALLY MEANT Vs the GOVERNING BODY'S VERSION OF THE BIBLE.

by skepticSam in

i found these contrasts incredible, anyone who claims that following the watchtower's bizarre aloof teachings is a "insurance policy" needs to have their heads examined.

these people were once in line with the watchtower's leaders until they got tossed out of the organization during the great purging of anointed jws in 2012.. the more i am around the worldly people, the more i see how insane jws are and the lack of love they have.

their selfish, always wanting to mooch off each other, steal from their brothers and sisters, evade taxes, cheat and hate playing by the rules.

paradisebeauty

*** ws chap. 1 pp. 10-11 par. 16 The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide ***the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members. This spiritual nation is like a little flock of Jehovah’s sheeplike ones.
1 timothy 2:5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus

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What Would Happen if the Watchtower Loses Their TAX EXEMPT STATUS?

by John Aquila in

would it really affect them?

how would it affect volunteers at any construction project since that work would now be taxable.

any materials they buy would be taxable.

paradisebeauty

it would be a disaster!

And I think it will happen soon in Great Britain. They have an investigation from the charity commission there going on.

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One hope for ALL christians - interesting video on heavenly hope

by paradisebeauty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7qe6fqac4.

a short video with proof from the bible that the ones going to "heaven" are not meant to stay there forever, but just to meet jesus there (at the rapture) and be with him forever, on earth, not in heaven!.

paradisebeauty

@ Clambake

For a few weeks now I've been reading a lot on their website and saw notheing on unitarians or that guy you mentioned.

Actually from what I see I they do not promote any particular church. They mention it is good to have fellowship with other Christians but from what I understand they mean the church / group you already are part of, or just other christian friends.

They say the church of God are all true Christians on Earth, no matter the denomination - this is something I believe, too.