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  Prayer Question I Had After Sundays Watchtower...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while i was sitting through another grueling watchtower, dying from my brain being turned into cult pudding, i had this thought after i heard this read: .

  when we express our most intimate thoughts to god in prayer, he may answer us through a bible passage, an article in a magazine, or an encouraging word from a fellow believer.

  -august 2015 watchtard.

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  kairos

  I hate that we were fooled.
  I hate that I have given up all of my adult life in a delusion.

  I love that I am free.
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  WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.

  also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.

  anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.

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  kairos

  Maybe some dirty, apostate, bethel, financial mole scuttled the ship from within.

  Self destruct sequence has been initiated and cannot be reversed...

  That would make a nice movie plot.
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  The Borg has given up!!!!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's become obvious in the last few days that the borg is done, done giving one dime over to the membership of the organization.

  they know or have been told that it's a waste of time to spend money trying to recruit new members so their cutting all out lays of money in this regard to the bone.

  they will continue to spend money where they can make a prophet, keeping the ones in, not thinking and donating.

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  kairos

  I had a thought about this late last night.

  GB get "raptured" to some island getaway.
  All the money and real estate profits (prophets ) suddenly do, too.

  the end...

  The faithful can meet in basements and review old articles from their bound volumes until Harm-you-gettin' finally comes.
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  where shall we go

  by Sabin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday i read something that hurt my heart.

  at a talk given by a brother lyman swingle ( i apologize if i am stepping out of line by using this) he said "that if you leave the jw ( i find it difficult to refer to it as the truth now days) you may as well go jump off a bridge".

  this i think is disgraceful talk to say to any body let alone an audience in which children are present.

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  kairos

  Thanks for this post.
  Feeling a bit down today.

  Where shall we go? Anywhere they ain't!
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  U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

  next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

  http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

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  kairos

  The UN issue was a total deal breaker for me and began the quick end of my being a JW.
  
  

  Very interested to see how this all plays out and how JWs will react when the evidence of their so-called "christian neutrality" is clearly seen to all.
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  I'm a coward.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the move, it has been so enjoyable to not have jw's breathing down our necks asking why we didn't make the meeting, or having to pretend to be "spiritual" in front of family all the time.. 90% of my week is virtually stress free.

  then, my mom calls or texts wanting to talk to her grandkids.

  every dang call, she asks about the new congregation, if we went to the meeting, etc.. why can't i tell her to fk off?

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  kairos

  I just want to burn the bridge and be done with it. I have tried so many times to salvage the relationship.

  DF her from your family. Announce it to her and explain the reinstatement process and appeal options...

  Then shun the hell out of her!!!

  ( that wasn't nice, but it was fun to say )
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  A question for the shunned re: hide or seek

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so here's my question as a newly daed person that is summarily shunned.

  do you hide from family and act like you don't exist or do you let them know you're still here and seek them out?

  they want you to be dead, like you no longer exist, because strict avoidance makes it easier on them.

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  kairos

  They for the most part, most JWs were never really interested in being my friend.
  Token handshakes and "how are you's" are not evidence of "love among yourselves".
  Most of the calls or visits away from the KH that I ever received were when someone needed something or wanted me to fill in last minute on some part.

  People loved to borrow my tools, car trailers and my time.
  They convinced me that we were friends.

  After fading for nearly two years, I realized that I was already shunned by near everyone.
  They would get uncomfortable when seeing me in a store or somewhere public.
  My wife's sisters were about the only hold-out JWs that would speak to me or come visit in our home. Now it's all over.

  Now, after being DF'd for about 20 days, I realize fully that it was all just an illusion of "friendship" and "association". No substance. We had "Jehovah" in common.
  ( that means we agreed to follow the GB and live our lives by their rules )

  Very sad realization.

  So glad to be out. Got my life back.
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  kairos

  I could submit my DA letter or a very late J/C appeal.
  If anything they'd get a smirk.

  Maybe they'd send me a letter stating they DF'd me back on Sept 10th 2015 ( FYI ! )
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  How did your close JWs react when they found out you know TTATT?

  by ivanatahan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not sure if this topic has ever been posted (surely, i believe it has), but it would be interesting to revive such a topic and hear your stories!.

  when my parents heard my first rant (after they told me to be home schooled when i was caught kissing a girl) they entered into a long depression that continues to this day.

  my father suffers knowing his once amazing family is now divided, and my mother is equally angry.

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  kairos

  My older than me nephew, ex-elder, ex-pioneer, ex-bethelite, after having a very two hour session of why I'm an apostate, stopped our relationship on the spot.
  
  

  After ten plus years of regular family visits, trips and what-not he cut me off about a year ago. His family is so dysfunctional and crazy, I'm actually glad to be rid of them.

  Sad as that sounds, it is the truth.

  This organization makes people choose between their religion and their family.
  Lying hypocrites!

  No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102009251
  
  
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  Watchtower Society: something terribly going on - scenarios

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if an (aggressive) real estate fund is stopping it's operations directly,.

  and if an publishing house is minimize the portfolio,.

  and if a member of it's board of directors is telling the costs are higher then the profits,.

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  kairos

  I think there is very good chance that the top, all long time or born-in JWs, really believe YHWH is guiding them. They are "all in".

  They are finding that this is not the case, and confusion is setting in, paving the way for the mass exodus from Watchtower. Sadly, I expect some long time bethelites, DOs or COs, special pioneers, missionaries will commit suicide after they learn that it was all a for profit ( not prophet ) cult. This truly worries me.

  It may start slow, but will gather momentum when WTS leadership enters prison, is paying millions in lawsuits, goes bankrupt or all of the above.

  Many of our old "friends" will need our help and comfort after years of them shunning us. I'll forgive the humble...