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  Why are the GB and JWs scared of "apostates" and "research"? Romans 8: 35-39

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was just pondering this passage of scripture:.

  romans 8:35-39 (new world translation).

  35 who will separate us from the love of the christ?+ will tribulation or distress or persecution or hunger or nakedness or danger or sword?+ 36 just as it is written: “for your sake we are being put to death all day long; we have been accounted as sheep for slaughtering.”+ 37 on the contrary, in all these things we are coming off completely victorious+ through the one who loved us.

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  kairos

  I read this and came to a conclusion that troubles me deeply.
  
  The JWs are the persecutors. The ones that judge. The ones that follow men ( putting trust in nobles instead of God ). Forgive? no, punishment.
  
  When people at the door would tell us the most unbelievable thing we'd ever heard:
  "Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian". We'd scoff with full arrogance on display.
  
  *Spoiler Alert*

  They were right...

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  Also Romans chapter 8 contains many warnings about 'fleshly desires', etc.
  Which JWs have a big problem with organizationally for over a hundred years.

  Cuts to the heart
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  The FISA Memo, To Release Or Not To Release

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  was the doj, nsa, and fbi weaponized?

  the biggest scandal of this era, or a false alarm by the gop?

  i am skeptical what will come of it, however, some very strong reactions and words are coming from its existence and those who read it, also the fight to keep it secret is telling (reminds me of any cult trying to prevent people from reading damaging information).

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  kairos

  I still wonder: Anyone has an idea what might be in the memo?

  
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  Sure. The previous administration used the various agencies to attempt to fix the election.
  They not only found nothing, now they are getting caught and will be going to prison.

  Sweet, huh?
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  It’s My Anniversary!

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today is the four year anniversary of the last time i set foot in a kingdom hall.

  it was the day of the kool-aid issue of the wt!

  “at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

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  kairos

  I had exited just a few months prior to that article.
  After seeing it, I immediately got a sick feeling that many will die because of JWs.

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  That WT quote is the gift that keeps giving, in that it will continue to wake up doubting JWs that start doing WT research.
  
  There is no reasonable way to interpret those directions from the GB.
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  How much paper has the WT used to print its publications?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so... i am doing a crazy stat: how many pieces of paper has the wt ever published?.

  i don't have the answer yet, but.... i do have the approximate answer for the awake!

  and the watchtower magazines.... get ready... it's a whopping 1.1 trillion pages!.

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  kairos

  Then add in the paper, envelopes and postage involved in the Russian 'letter writing campaign' that back fired....
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  Are JWs capable of a genuine discussion?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just pondering whether jws are capable of having a calm, in depth discussion about religious or faith topics?.

  i have just finished listening to a great podcast by "dogma debate" (dan) episode 333. this fantastic, in-depth conversation between a theist and an atheist was a masterful example of how a dignified conversation can take place without it resorting to abruptness or even nastiness.. jws on the other hand seem incapable of having such discussion without ending up in the following ways:.

  1)they get dogmatic and defensive if a differing view is presented.. 2)if the conversation doesn't go their way, they cut it short saying something like "well, we had better agree to disagree" or the like.. so why the arrogance?

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  kairos

  sadly, this describes most conversations with my still-in wife.
  
  < she's going to wait on Jehovah >

  I asked her if that means following whatever the GB tell you to do and believe until you die?
  
  That didn't go over very well.
  Let's chalk that up to a 'what not to do' example...
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  New to the truth

  by MatthewHewey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.

  i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.

  so far, i love it.

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  kairos

  There is no shortage of detailed accounts of ruined lives of those that left JWs.
  You cannot leave with your dignity intact.
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  Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.

  so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.

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  kairos

  I actually quit attending memorials at the KH several years before my exit.
  

  They really frown upon crying and emotion.
  As if it is 'wrong'.
  I need to mourn in a natural, healthy way that may include crying.
  

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  Can you even imagine this scenario:

  My JW wife dies and I agree to go to her memorial.
  She's well loved, so it would be a full house.

  Me, admitted apostate, what? When do i come in? Late. Sit in the back?
  Would they even mention me in the talk?
  Would anyone acknowledge me on any level?

  After years of shunning, could anyone not see the hypocrisy?
  
  I'll stand out front with my own makeshift memorial and simple message for all to read as they drive in:
  
  'You used to love me'
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  Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.

  so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.

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  kairos

  Never. Not for anyone.

  The entire JW experience is so disgusting, there would be no reason.
  
  I could see standing on the sidewalk with a simple sign for my wife's JW memorial.
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  Flat earth vs round earth

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

  what are people's thoughts on this?.

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  kairos

  Methinks kairos has checked out of reality
  He has decided to run his own show

  I'm changing my story.
  I'm actually Geoffrey Jackson, trolling you all!
  It's a psyop to get you apostates off my ass after my lies at the ARC.

  You heard it here first.
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  Flat earth vs round earth

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

  what are people's thoughts on this?.

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  kairos

  Methinks kairos has checked out of reality
  He has decided to run his own show

  Quite possible. I give you that.
  Good thing, too.

  I recommend you live life to the fullest. Chase your dreams.

  Ironically, it seems I'm viewed as a reality apostate on a JW apostate web site!
  First JW apostate DFd from my congregation and local area, too. ( admitted apostasy, even! )

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  Do I run around spewing flat earth nonsense in my day to day?
  Nope. I'm fairly anonymous here. Although I do not 'hide who I am'®, if you want to know who I am. There's an easter egg for any of you bored enough.
  Plus, after losing some good friends, I don't bring it up very often, if ever in the real world. PIMO, among society, if you will.

  Put all of that in your pipe and smoke it!!

  
  
  

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