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  I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

  i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

  in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

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  kairos

  Actually sounds mildly entertaining.
  I wish I would have done that.
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  The Pain of Coming to a Decision

  by daniel-p in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been at least a couple years since i've posted anything on here, and much longer than that since when i was active.

  ten years ago i first came here all in turmoil over my disillusionment of my beliefs.

  i've been through lots of ups and downs since then.

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  kairos

  Thanks for the post.
  I was very captivated. My situation is also terrible.

  My wife finally told me that she will always be a JW no matter what she see, hears or learns.

  Gut punch. I feel like I have given up.
  We've hardly spoken for days. I'm super depressed.

  It's madness that this ridiculous group has hurt so many and goes on hurting.
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  Disassociation letter

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good evening.

  i have a question about where to send my disassociation letter.

  do i give a copy to the overseer of the cong i was in and the branch?

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  kairos

  I wish I would have walked away years earlier instead of prolonging the inevitable.
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  Being positively recognized

  by menrov in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi, for over a year, i stopped attending meeting and field service.

  actually, passively disassociated from the congregation.

  but i did not stop reading and doing my own research.

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  kairos

  I notice the difference in myself and so does my JW wife.

  I have also lost 75 pounds and have many enjoyable pursuits and interests.
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  Is zeal beginning to vanish?

  by Caupon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has to be starting to fade somehow.

  the very last time i went out in field service, hardly any were out.

  maybe just about nine people were out and man if you could just see their faces.

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  kairos

  I'm sad when I think about what it felt like when we found out "Jehovah" is actually the Governing Body.

  That was a real letdown.
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  Basic Principles for Forum Moderation

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  a perennial issue for any online forum is moderation and applying rules.

  we have a set of community guidelines and posting guidelines that are intended to make clear what is and isn't acceptable but this tends to focus on the obvious standards of behavior for, well, obvious reasons.

  it's easy to talk about people being aggressive or insulting etc... as those are common and clearly unwanted behaviors and the typical issue for online communities - the most likely things to come up.. does this mean that everything *not* on the list is allowed?

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  kairos

  Thank you, sir.
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  Traveling Merchants

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt teaches that rev 18:11 applies to "big business" mourning the demise of false religion, as they were essentially losing their best customer(s).. the last reference to this concept that i could find is 1993 wt.

  also weeping and mourning over her are greedy men of commerce, traveling merchants .

  , who became rich from her.. .

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  kairos

  WT is Babylon the Great.

  At least it seems like it.
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  Best Christmas Song?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a catchy little number this one!

  curiously, this little known christmas song by perry como was actually the theme tune to the odessa file movie back in the 70's.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l1uddoh-yu.

  so what have you got?.

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  kairos

  For brass playing musicians, It's "Sleigh Ride". -1949, Leroy Anderson

  https://youtu.be/EDRFmn_KqfA
  

  I'll be performing it tomorrow night!

  (The Big Band Jazz version)
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  OK friends lets be honest, if a Nuclear Holocaust took place today how many of you would return to the KH?

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  speaking for my self, no way in hell.. this question to see if you really have been deprogramed,.

  do you 100% believe it is not the truth.. a fourth of the world hit by a nuclear attack..

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  kairos

  This an amazing subject to me for a number of reasons:

  1. I was very fearful of nuclear war in the '80s. We did "duck and cover" drills on the school playground, watched movies in the classroom and the TV special "the Day After" came out.

  2. I started studying with the JWs when I was 18 and was baptized in 1989.

  3. WT doctrine used the bible verses that assured us that the earth would last forever, would be inhabited and the days would be "cut short" or no flesh would survive, etc. ( that satisfied me).

  4. Fast forward to 2010. I'm awakening from the cult <full throttle>. Yet, no longer scared.

  The nuclear powers that exist today, none of them want to end themselves.
  The nations are actually starting to come together.

  It's no longer a focus of mine. It's out of my hands and we all are going to die, one way or another.
  Where I live, would not be a nuke target. I would be fully aware, as SF is line of sight as is Fairfield , CA, home to Travis AFB. ( which is about 1/4 mile from the FF assembly hall, FYI )

  None of this means anything.

  Good Luck!
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  How do you overcome SHUNNING after leaving the organization and move on?

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it amazes me how many of you have left it all behind, including family, brothers and sisters, friends and a full network of people.

  i for one cannot find the courage to breakaway, and this causes me great anxiety and stress.

  it eats me alive to think that if i open my mouth everyone i know will simply turn their back on me.

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  kairos

  Accepting the fact that these that shun are not worth it.

  Sad at first, then happy.
  Totally over it. I do not crave any of them for associates.

  If one were to approach me, I would give them a chance.
  See where it goes.