Posts by kairos

Actually, it's common greed and desire for power, propped up by wealth. You really never see armies , countries or thugs running armed men that have no CASH.

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Where has all the money gone?

by gingerbread in

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a number of years ago when i was still active, our service group was having a coffee break with the visiting circuit overseer.

during the conversation he mentioned that the "society" was now being run like a business.

being raised in the "truth" i thought that rather odd (and my eyes began to be opened!

kairos

I think we'll find out more to this story sooner than later.

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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

by Dunedain in

there were always all types of speakers in the org.

myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

kairos

The S.H.I.T. story.

That happened in my area, too.

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Should I be mad?

by kairos in

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i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

( just "serving" napa ).

so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

kairos

I agree and disagree with all of the comments...

It was mixed signals coming from a 70 year old born-in.
The confusion must be baffling for her.

"Why would he leave Jehovah and all of us?"
"What is it that is more valuable than everlasting life?"

On the other hand, the very last thing I ever said to her was regarding the 1947 article on the pagan origins of shunning and the 1953 article implementing it as the "loving arrangement that it is".

( I highly doubt she is waking up, but she must have raging doubts as she lived through 1975 )

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As a Matter of Conscience, I Am Resigning from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Sail Away in

after listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.

as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.

i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.

kairos

I wish I did this.

So much more fun than the way I did it...

Has anyone contacted you?

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Should I be mad?

by kairos in

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i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

( just "serving" napa ).

so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

kairos

I've been blamed for "throwing everyone away".

This is my fault.

My actions make them shun me.

I've been ignored by most local JWs for the past 2.5 years anyway.
I'm glad to be rid of them all for the most part.
Just a few of my wife's family and a few so-so friends that I miss on ocasion.

I've been building a network of "worldly" friends since 2004.
Leaving was fairly simple, it was staying off the elder's radar that was my downfall. If it weren't for my wife's feelings, I would have done crazy things. I'm glad I didn't, although a secretly recorded J/C with nothing but humiliating traps for the elders would have been special.

Bottom line, I told my wife, no more unauthorized contact!

Either shun or don't. No more mixed signals.

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Should I be mad?

by kairos in

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friends

i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

( just "serving" napa ).

so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

kairos

Considering that she is the wife of the very eldurr that got the whole "he's an apostate" ball rolling.

They have known me for 20 years. We have been on family trips, camping, etc for all this time. They know I'm not a "bad" guy.

I think the only hope they have is that I will "humble myself" before it is too late.

I get little snips of "so and so" said they love you or said "hello" and in this case, sent soup especially for me.

Shun or don't, but don't lead me along thinking that you might snap out of it. That's probably not the right attitude.

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Should I be mad?

by kairos in

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friends

i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

( just "serving" napa ).

so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

kairos

My wife told me how much her family loves me and is in "so much pain".

I had to just say it's because they are in a CULT!
I explained than shunning is amongst some of the cruelest conduct one can engage in.

Then the nerve to call it "love".

I told her that they treat me like they hate me.
( we'll never speak to you again until you get re-instated )
That will never happen.
( Unless "someone holy" visits me with the straight scoop )

I got the look of: "does. not. compute."

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Should I be mad?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

( just "serving" napa ).

so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

kairos

I've been DF'd for about six weeks now.
No one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".
That's the way notorious CO Paul Kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is JW shunning. ( Just "serving" Napa )

So, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me...

Well, I got super pissed. Caused a big fight and the rage against this filthy cult is at a high note.

If we had a normal relationship, this would be fine, but this was like getting an invitation to attend something great and at the end it says, "by the way, you aren't really invited".

What am I supposed to do, she's been shunning her own daughter for the last 10 years. Am I supposed to call and thank her for the soup?

I'm thinking this must be some maniacal effort to lure me back to the KH.

I told my wife I thought it was cruel. I don't need soup, I'd like a relationship.
I almost dumped it straight into the garbage.

Shunning is stupid.

SO. Would you be mad?