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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

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  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  kairos

  Nice template.

  I expect I will need it immediately after what happened this morning.

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  I woke up to a really painful and real dream.
  
  

  I'm still processing the details. I told my wife that I must have the elders understand that I want nothing to do with their religion or any future phone or personal calls.

  I told her it would be better to stay out of this.

  Short story is this, I ended on the phone again with two elder on speaker phone.

  I clearly told them that they may NEVER call me again.
  I phrased it three different ways, each more clear than the last with only a yes or no answer to communicate their intentions.

  They could not do this. This was over the speaker phone on my end with my wife listening too, so everything they said was witnessed by three people and cannot be disputed.

  They told me they read my letter.
  I called them out on this, as it clearly states throughout the text that it's written communication from here on. So they both lied.

  He said he didn't have time to read it, as he was out of town on Sunday giving a talk...

  Bottom line, I told them both to "FUCK OFF". ( twice )

  Yes there were three witnesses to that.

  I hope they recorded the entire thing, as why would they ever want to share how they care for the sheep with anyone else. Damn, that would be embarrassing...

  Oh, the fun! ( NOT )
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  Preaching from door to door (music scene) Проповедь от двери к двери (музыкальная сценка)

  by oppostate in

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  an entertainment for international convention delegates.

  quite a lot of dancing going on!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1zztq2zle.

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  kairos

  Why are they wearing "Spanx"?
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  kairos

  We're doing really well, my wife and I.

  I told her they need to clearly understand that there is nothing to be gained from me. They need to leave me alone.

  I like the restraining order idea. Should really shake them up.
  
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  kairos

  A third elder had the nerve to call me again.

  He is treading on very thin ice with me.

  Elders playing along at home:
  LEAVE ME ALONE OR I WILL SUE YOU!

  This guy actually thought he was going to convince me to meet with them.

  
  

  I carefully explained that I will never meet with them, however I will cover all topics in writing. He didn't want to do that.

  
  

  I said:

  "If I call the Watchtower Service Desk and ask them a question they require a letter. I'm asking that you do the same"...

  
  

  His response. And I promise this true...

  
  

  "That's not fair".

  
  

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  So, another holy one has decided instead of taking an interest in my spiritual welfare and communicating in a way that I can tolerate ( writing only ), it would be better to end communication.

  
  

  I'm thinking a visit to city hall inquiring of the process to execute a restraining order against the Oak Knoll Congregation Corporation.
  

  Name the entire body of elders and have it served on Sunday morning before the meeting.

  
  

  
  
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  "And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

  by Terry in

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  i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

  i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

  so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

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  kairos

  I'll try this.
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  Has the Royal Commission website removed Geoffery Jackson from schedule?

  by Indian Larry in

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  earlier this morning the royal commission website stated:.

  "the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.

  "now that has been changed.

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  kairos

  I'm hoping GJ is a secret, apostate, double-sleeper-mole ( SADSM ) and has been planning this for years. Blowing their cover on streaming video. Brilliant!!

  Maybe, GJ and http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/4970/OUTLAW are one and the same!!!

  ...or not!
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  Gross hypocrisy in September 15, 2015 Watchtower

  by Island Man in

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  ask any jw the question "why do jehovah's witnesses impose their views on others?

  we do not impose our views on anyone!".

  do you impose your views on others?

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  kairos

  .. and Spanx!
  
  
  
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  If Jackson, When?

  by kairos in

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  let's pretend jackson actually takes the stand to be potentially interrogated all week.

  when would be the soonest we could see this?.

  i'm hoping with all my might that he does and ttatt goes global....

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  Friday is very good. Better even.

  Bigger potential audience and more time to spread the word.
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  how the things are going with my sister

  by opusdei1972 in

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  this morning i phoned my sister so as to know how the things are going with her problem with the congregation.

  if i remember well, five weeks ago, my sister was asked by the elders (in the street) to attend a judicial meeting for apostasy.

  my sister told them that she firstly needs a formal letter specifying who is accusing her.

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  kairos

  I am very seriously considering heading down to city hall and explaining my situation clearly and reasonably. Then ask for a restraining order against the body of elders...

  Anyone do this?
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  Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".

  by kairos in

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  judicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).

  what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?

  ( for good ).

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  kairos

  As my situation has changed and an elder tried to get me to meet with them, I asked my wife to deliver this to the elder today, which she did.

  Here's the first part.

  Dear Brothers,
  
  
  The purpose of this letter is to clarify certain matters and to secure and protect what I, Kairos Trekkor Wills, consider basic human rights in dealing with agents of the multinational Watchtower corporations.
  
  
  Since you have asked me to respond to charges in what could escalate into a judicial committee, there are a few things that I must ask for and which I feel must be clarified before I consider meeting with the elders, judicially or otherwise:
  
  
  1. I shall be notified in writing of any accusations against me, the names of persons making such accusations and the substance of all evidence against me.
  
  
  2. I shall be notified in writing of the exact purpose of the meetings.
  
  
  3. I shall be notified in writing of the time, place and purpose of any meetings with the elders, judicially or otherwise.
  
  
  4. I shall be notified in writing exactly on whose behalf the judicial committee was convened and is acting: the Oak Knoll Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses or its legal corporation, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses or its legal corporations, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, Inc., the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, the International Bible Students Association or any other agency not here named.

  PM me if you want the rest.
  I received the template here and it is proving to be exactly what I needed. I was carrying it around with me ready to hand it to any elder I might find. This is better, as what's he going to do, refuse it from my JW wife that attends the meetings?

  That would be weird. "I cannot accept that letter".
  

  No calls yet and my wife seems to indicate they got the message.