Posts by sowhatnow

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Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation

by Mary in

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ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?

the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.

1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.

sowhatnow

our family was a blend of 5 and 6, our kids were well behaved, we got compliments about it, yet no one ever invited us to thier home for any other reason than conregation related events like picnics or baby showers. and yea everyone always had an exscuse why they were too busy to get thier kids together with my kids. and I was always the one to ask, and drive my kids everyplace.

and, my son DID get punched in the stomach by an older boy only 3 months after starting a new congregation, which he did not tell me till 8 years later! after that my son wouldnt go, I never forced my kids to go to a meeting,[ like my mom did to me by using guilt].

he stayed home with his father who was stumbled out because when our daughter got into trouble, and my husband discussed it with an elder hoping or help, instead, he got a glare, and the words 'wow you got some problems there to work on dont you' and off he walked.

after that my husband never went again. neither did my kids. I went for years alone. now i dont care anymore. Im not missed thats for sure.

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Steven Lett Governing body tells his Grandfather beaten for playing loud Rutherford records....Why??

by Witness 007 in

at the international convention melbourne brother lett of the group 2 faithful slave told an emotional story of his grandfather on a sidewalk in texas playing a rutherford recording loudly till a irratated texan came out of a house, smashed the grammaphone and punched him in the face...if you ever heard rutherford you would know why.

for example religion is a snare and a racket invented by satan....no wonder they were banned..tarred and feathered...killed and put in jail playing the rantings of a maniac.

brother lett was proud of him...i pitty the fool.. .

sowhatnow

you gotta wonder how anyone fell for that to begin with

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new assembly experience... what do you reckon to this one?

by purrpurr in

ok so aparently there was this young girl who wanted to study with the jw's because she loved the bible so much.

she asked her fathers permission but he refused, after much nagging though he said she could have a study if she was prepared to have one of her fingers chopped off.

he thought the is would stop her but she was willing so he got a knife and cut off one of her fingers... a little while later she wanted to attend the meetings and he said no and again when nagged said she could attend meetings if she had another finger chopped off so she agreed and he chopped off a second finger.

sowhatnow

so its better to have your father 'cut off your finger', [for a bunch of foolish beliefs] when you disobey him, and God, [who told us to obey our parents as long as we are under their roof and we are not being abused]

, than to simply cooporate respct your father, and read the bible on your own time and wait till you move from home then persue your own faith?

how does someone reason that this would be, faith strenghthening? its terrifying if you ask me. and gee the father got away with that,hmmm.

have my kids get their fingers cut off for going to church? Yea right. God wouldnt be so stupid.

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anyone got this article? from 1947 awake

by sowhatnow in

im looking for the article called 'are you also excommunicated' in the jan 8th 1947 awake.. anyone have a pdf file to share so i can print it?

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thanks one way or the other.

sowhatnow

thanks ill hope to print that up later.

gotta run,

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anyone got this article? from 1947 awake

by sowhatnow in

im looking for the article called 'are you also excommunicated' in the jan 8th 1947 awake.. anyone have a pdf file to share so i can print it?

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thanks one way or the other.

sowhatnow

im looking for the article called 'are you also excommunicated' in the jan 8th 1947 awake.

anyone have a pdf file to share so i can print it?

thanks one way or the other

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why no one could hang on a stake

by sowhatnow in

has any one ever pondered the artists rendering of jesus and the 2 'criminals' beside him?

wth upright bodies?

no blood,.

sowhatnow

has any one ever pondered the artists rendering of jesus and the 2 'criminals' beside him? wth upright bodies? no blood,

think about it, for one thing a grown mans body could not possiblly hang on his wrists with a single nail.

the wrists are what the wt decides that the nails are through not the hands.

the feet would also tear and be broken, you can nail feet over top each other without using a huge long metal mail like pin.

the weight of the person, would tear through the flesh and probably disconnect his shoulders , he would be bleading to death as the nails would go right thorugh the blood artery. you cannot breath either, your lungs are compressed .

there would be blood pouring out profusely.

Any human hung this way would be in so much agony they would have no idea who was next to them, they wouldnt be able to talk

theys be delerious in no time, and dead with in hours.

now compare that with tieing the wrists on the cross beam, and tieing the tow ankles to the pole. the nailing the hands or wrists and feet

even that would produce profuse bleeding and agony. but perhaps prolong life a while longer.

now I ask you, what God, or father in their right mind would do that to a child, and use that to redeem mankind? I must be better than God to never every do that ors expect that of my son.

hes God he doesnt need to prove anything to anyone.

he could have simply allowed sinners to die off and those who did not sin to live forever, and that still would have completed Gods plan.

end of story.

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I Think I Caught A Lie!

by lambsbottom in

*** w13 7/15 p. 7 par.

15 tell us, when will these things be?

and in his parable of the sheep and the goats, jesus states: the son of man arrives in his glory.

sowhatnow

I understand this scripture this way. [after much other research on the subject]

jesus told those 12 apostles with him at the time that some of them would see him come and take his kingdom, this happened in the first chapter of acts,

where it describes his vsit, and he ate ahd drank with them . the seprerating work started then, apparently, as seen in acts, when they , the current lost sheep of Israel, repented and got baptised after the big speach in acts ch 2? or 3. theywere not preaching to gentiles they were preaching repentance to those lost sheep of the house of Israel.

sheep and goats are both valuable flocks, but the sheep belonged to Jesus, a messiah fo israel, the goats were in my opinion, the gentiles.

there are contradictions all over the place in the bible, as well as in nearly every article the society has printed, so its a free for all.

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which book says it?

by sowhatnow in

my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.

she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?

i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.

sowhatnow

wow thanks all!!

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which book says it?

by sowhatnow in

my mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.

she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?

i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.

sowhatnow

somehow i can be talking to my mother about a tossed salad and somehow she ends up preachng at me.

i dont bring anything about religion up and yet she 'spins' it in that direction. shes 72. shes done no research even using the jw publications.

shes so coufused she makes me chucle, things paul said she claims jesus said. and shes so sure, but she wont look it up.

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One Day assembly in Arizona- $17,000 !!

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.

"rent/extortion) were even met.

$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".

sowhatnow

when the assembly hall was paid off for many many years i always wondered what cost so much money. after all everything is voulentered no maintaianence costs or landscaping costs other than new mulch.

so the only cost is electricity, which these buildings are supposed to be super energy efficiiant. and water and sewer costs.