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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Interesting that Lloyd went to the Ukrainian border to pick up refugees.

  Let's hope he goes to Mariupol or Donbas next, lol ...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LoveUniHateExams

  A person cheating on his wife with sex workers is bad. You don't have to be religious to see this. Atheists can clearly see this.

  Lloyd's defenders are delusional in this instance.

  And, as has already been said, using prostitutes is illegal.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Here's one thing I've noticed about Lloyd's confession video (later deleted):

  Lloydy boy has completely misjudged ExJWs and atheists.

  He maybe kinda thought, 'if you leave the WT cult you can do anything you want - cheat on your wife with prostitutes, anything!'

  Er, no, Lloyd, just because people leave the WTS they still have morals, concepts of decent vs unacceptable behaviour. Ditto atheists - they don't believe God exists but they still have morals, too.

  And cheating on your wife with prostitutes (some of whom may be forced into sex work or are under age) is totally incompatible with being an activist who criticises the Watchtower's child abuse policies.

  Lloyd's dramatic loss of patreons is evidence for the fact that he's completely misjudged how ex-JWs/atheists feel and think.

  It's hilarious watching him in a hole of his own making, digging down further and further.
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  Am I at the right place?

  by AnotherJohn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m still a good christian.

  i still believe the bible.. i don’t like the wt society, but some of the people, as individuals are good.

  there are many nasty jws also.. i have concerns about current events and how close the end actually is.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Welcome to the forum.

  Also no or none? They found Jericho - yes, but this doesn't mean Jericho's walls were flattened by God-magic, lol.

  PS

  People are free to have religious beliefs but those beliefs aren't exempted from rational inquiry.
  
  
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  Does the WTS have a clergy class

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

  7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

  all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  @Ozzie - they may have changed it since I left.

  I left in 2006.
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  Does the WTS have a clergy class

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

  7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

  all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Remember when you were first coming into 'the truth'? It was all, we are all brothers and our leader is Jesus.

  Turns out this is all bullshit.

  The WTS has a strict hierarchy, a bit like the Catholic Church ...

  Governing Body

  Bethel Elders

  District Overseers

  Circuit Overseers

  Local Elders

  Ministerial Servants

  Male Publishers

  Female Publishers

  Children
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LoveUniHateExams

  'Kim Silvio's ongoing defamation campaign against me ...'

  ^^^ I like the way Lloyd is trying to guess Kim's motives here.

  As far as I can make out, Kim Silvio is just telling the truth and/or correcting certain things she believes to be false.

  She's not trying to defame Lloyd.

  His doing that with his own actions, lol.
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  How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

  watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

  you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Absolutely, truth_be_known
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  How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

  watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

  you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  it is imperative that the elders maintain strict confidentiality about his past - <--- this is the worrying part.

  People need to be protected from murderers, sex offenders, etc.
  
  
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  Will the next James Bond be........

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  .......a disabled black, non-binary, homosexual, transsexual, environmentalist vegan?

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  all bases need to be covered.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  No, the next Bond won't be any of those things.

  James Bond is the intellectual property of Ian Fleming, his creator, and thus cannot be changed.

  And Fleming created him as a suave, dashing white guy with a penchant for bedding the ladies.

  What trendy people can do is create other spies. So, yeah, Phoebe Waller-Bridge or some other trendy people can create a black 007, or a non-binary wheelchair user, lol. Keep an eye on the ratings

  What gets me is this: why is it deemed necessary to 'represent' groups of people?

  I love Ellen Ripley - she's probably my favorite movie protagonist - yet I'm a man and the Ripley character is a woman.

  Black theatre goers can identify with and like white characters. Disabled people can like a able-bodied characters. Gay people can like hetero characters.