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i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

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#1 Nazario's temporary vehicle license was visible in the lower right hand corner of his rear window even in the body cam video, which wasn't even at a good angle to see it. The police may not have seen it in the dark, but once he pulled into a brightly lit gas station, proper procedure would have been to check for and run that tag. [italics mine] - Hang on a sec, doesn't the law state that a displayed vehicle license must be visible at all times? The cops had every right to stop the guy if they couldn't see that license.

#2 The imperatives shouted at Nazario were conflicting. He was simultaneously told to keep his hands visible and to get out of the vehicle which would have involved pulling a hand inside the vehicle which would very likely have gottem him shot. - yes, you're right here. The imperatives were conflicted when both cops started talking. But what about the commands given before that, when just one was talking? The army guy blatantly refused quite a few of these commands. Who escalated the situation, the cops or the army guy?

#3 Use of force by police must be justified by the level of threat. A suspect may be noncompliant for a whole spectrum of reasons ranging from impairment/confusion/fear on one end to open hostility on the other. It's one thing if a suspect is surely and combative, but it's quite another if he is holding his hands up and stating that he's afraid - yes, use of force must be justified by level of threat. However, cops don't know why a suspect would be non-compliant. Just try to put yourself in the cops' shoes here. They want to stop a guy who isn't displaying his tags so that they're visible. Then the suspect ignores them, driving a mile and a half with the cop car following him, lights and signs going. The cops must be wondering why the suspect is ignoring them. Then one cop gets out and shouts for the army guy to put his hands outside the window, multiple times. The army guy ignores all these commands. The army guy isn't complying here.

^^^ the army guy ain't making life easy for himself, is he? In fact, his non-compliance escalated the situation.

Proper procedure is to make that determination and not needlessly escalate a traffic stop. - The cop went from pointing a gun at the army guy to switching to his taser to switching to his pepper spray. <--- this is actually de-escalation. I'll say again. it was the army guy's non-compliance which escalated this particular situation.

None of this is my personal opinion. This is what use of force experts across the country have said after reviewing the recordings, which is why Gutierrez was fired - I'd rather hear your personal opinions than respond to your appeal to authority but I'll comment anyway. The cops certainly made a few mistakes, although I personally don't think the cop should've been fired. Disciplined and retrained - yes.

And all this happened just as the Chauvin trial is underway, with America on a knife edge, braced for rioting and looting, sorry, 'mostly peaceful protests'. Maybe that had something to do with the cop being fired?

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The power of comedy

by LoveUniHateExams in

we live in strange times, in the middle of a culture war where saying certain opinions have consequences.

<--- so much for free speech.. thank goodness for satire.. https://babylonbee.com/news/nike-factory-graciously-offers-to-house-unaccompanied-migrant-children.

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What police have to deal with

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

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The smile on Ms. Ayala's face when the officer starts lying is priceless - I guess you're referring to when he mentioned 'the tinted windows'. Was the cop lying here?

Was the police stop in the video you posted, in fact, illegal?

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What police have to deal with

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

LoveUniHateExams

Joe Gutierrez has been fired for not following procedure - specifically, what did he do wrong?

And, of course, the footage in the video I linked still shows the crap the cops have to put up with. What kind of procedure was the army guy following? I guess it was the 'I don't have to comply with cops and I can video them to score social justice points on FaceBook' procedure, lol.

The cops were actually pretty reasonable and patient under the circumstances, as far as I could tell.

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What police have to deal with

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

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Is it time we brought in another type of official to deal with these cases? - this is a good question and I have no doubt that your motives are also good.

But how would that work out in practice?

Cops patrol the streets, focussing on pedestrians, and traffic cops focus on people driving their vehicles.

It's typically impossible to know if citizens are suicidal or homicidal. I guess if you had a case of a man on a bridge threatening to jump off then you send in the 'suicide squad' but in all other circumstances it's impossible to know.

E.g. if cops try to stop an armed guy driving a car, and they eventually get him to stop, and the guy gets out the car ignoring commands and waving a gun … how would the cops know whether that guy is suicidal or homicidal?

^^^ And remember, the cops often have to make quick decisions in a split second. <--- it just wouldn't work.

Bottom line: citizens should live within the law and comply with officers of the law. This should be taught explicitly in schools, if necessary. Y'know, 'Citizen Studies' or something similar.

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What police have to deal with

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

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The guy who recently jumped back in the car and got himself shot did it to himself - yeah, the guy who did the breakdown in the OP did a video on the Daunte Wright killing.

It's a tragic outcome but Daunte Wright had previous (can't remember the exact details). And the dude ran back into his car as an officer was trying to cuff him. That's freaking retarded.

Do these guys want the cops to shoot them?

It's almost as if resisting being detained and refusing to comply with cops leads to bad outcomes …

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What police have to deal with

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

LoveUniHateExams

So, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of Derek Chauvin and the death of Daunte Wright. I certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.

What is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.

Here's a video breaking down one such interaction.

A car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed. Cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights. The driver (a military man) pulled over into a gas station, then refused multiple commands at gun point (put your hands out of the window, get out of the car slowly, etc.).

The entire incident was captured on the two cops' body cams. They eventually dragged the guy out his vehicle and pepper-sprayed him. The senior cop gave him a choice - the driver could continue arguing and get charges of illegal tags and obstructing justice, or everyone could just chill and hit the road. Apparently, the guy is gonna sue the two cops.

Just watch this …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBMnJyOiT0

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BLM co-founder bought $1.4 million house in LA

by LoveUniHateExams in

ever wondered what blm do with their donations?.

well, i think i may have discovered an answer.. co-founder patrisse cullors has bought herself a nice, million dollar home in topanga, an exclusive la enclave, the demographics of which is approx.

80% white and 1.5% black.. yeah, cullors, an open marxist, has benefitted greatly from a capitalist country, lol.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4zrno_jcc0.

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Patrisse Cullors responds to all the racist fuss of her choice of houses …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY9g9h3YtOk