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  Didn't the Governing Body tell us Israel is safe?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  i'm sure most people heard about this story that broke yesterday.. http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/world/meast/jerusalem-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  of couse the governing body would never encourage the brothers to go to unsafe areas like detroit or israel.

  sadly the brothers would believe it if the governing body told them drinking cyanide was safe.. .

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  berrygerry

  Seriously, if they do believe Israel is safe for the preaching work, what next? Pioneering in Mecca?

  Great idea. Next International Convention in Mecca.
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  Anyone know of df'ing for taking a br. to Court (esp. if Cdn)?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most jw's have been told that taking a fellow jw to court is wrong.. the shepherd book uses wts speak: "if an individual ignores god's word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges.

  " (italics theirs.).

  the following are from an interesting case in canada ( link ):.

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  berrygerry

  Most JW's have been told that taking a fellow JW to Court is wrong.

  The Shepherd book uses WTS speak: "If an individual ignores God's Word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges." (Italics theirs.)

  The following are from an interesting case in Canada ( link ):

  [16] Everyone in Canada has a constitutional right of access to Her Majesty’s courts as a litigant or as a witness. The punishment impending here (and imposed against the other litigants in the parallel proceedings) is for doing just that. Public policy dictates weighing that when considering the balance of convenience.

  [17] We could say a good deal about this topic. But since this appeal is about a stay and not about the final decision on judicial review, we will be brief. On the right of access to the courts, see B.C. G.E.U. v. A.-G. British Columbia 1988 CanLII 3 (SCC), [1988] 2 S.C.R. 214, 87 N.R. 241, and Crevier v. A.-G. Quebec 1981 CanLII 30 (SCC), [1981] 2 S.C.R. 220 at 236, 38 N.R. 541 (paras. 21-23). On merely threatening or deterring witnesses as criminal contempt, see R. v. Vermette (1983) 1983 ABCA 154 (CanLII), 44 A.R. 253 (paras. 5-11) (C.A.), affd. 1987 CanLII 51 (SCC), [1987] 1 S.C.R. 577, 584, 74 N.R. 221 (para. 10). And see the other cases cited in 3 Stevenson and Côté, Civil Procedure Encyclopedia, pp. 62-44 and 62-45 (2003).

  [18] One must also note s. 139(3) of the Criminal Code on obstruction of justice by attempting to dissuade someone from giving evidence, by means of threats.

  [19] We must emphasize that the issue here is not merely litigating in some forum topics such as who has jurisdiction, or when proceedings are premature. This is a question of express threats to harm someone for going to court or acting as a witness in court. Or of punishing him for having done so and (partly) won.

  [20] This is not judicial review of a jurisdiction decision, still less judicial review of a decision on the merits of an election. It is judicial review of punishment for merely having gone to court. The respondent is going beyond supervising the superior court, which would be upside down. It is emasculating the superior court.
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  I have nothing left in the tank, I need help

  by Yondaime in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore.

  i'm literally on the sound system list every week.

  i'm either reading on sunday or tuesday, praying on tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system, or doing last minute parts for the service meeting.

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  I dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore. I'm literally on the sound system list every week. I'm either reading on Sunday or Tuesday, praying on Tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system.

  or doing last minute parts for the service meeting. Not to mention service on Saturdays and Sundays.

  I found doing the mics, and even reading, helped greatly for the meetings to pass.

  Doing parts, though, and service, can suck out of you.

  Try and see what you can escape from while keeping your sanity.

  If you can do nothing, go to a doctor, and tell him about your workload.

  He'll readily give you a note to take a break.

  Explain to the appropriate elder that you need to take a break to rebuild - and that you will be of zero use if you have a breakdown.
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  Anybody else relate, "Take me to Church" by Hosier to the KH and elders?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a good chunk of this song matches up to a life as a jw.. here are some lyrics and how i relate it.. .

  my lover's got humour she's the giggle at a funeral knows everybody's disapproval i should've worshiped her sooner (whole verse about perhaps a spouse who left first and shunned by all, and now the other spouse who finally left should have supported them long ago) if the heavens ever did speak she's the last true mouthpiece every sunday's getting more bleak a fresh poison each week (the gb say they are the 'mouthpiece' of god.

  this persons other is who revealed ttatt.

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  Never scrutinized the lyrics, but love the song.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses child abuse and judical comittees, YLE TV1 News 11/1/2014

  by tunnistaja.ee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoslbdatzc.

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  Thank you for the post and the links.
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  Attracting young ones to the org

  by Gratefullyunstuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  noticing a lot of posts and behaviours of the org that they seem to be trying to appeal to the younger generation.

  im wondering if they are jumping on the back of a popular young clothing brand called jack wills.. a lot of their clothes have jw logo on them.

  i wonder when searching this logo 'jw' on internet, where the search takes them?....................hmmmmmm!.

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  berrygerry

  Hmmm.

  

  Versus

  

  As a single male, I gotta say, it's a tossup (i.e. image 2 makes me want to toss up.)
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  Attracting young ones to the org

  by Gratefullyunstuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  noticing a lot of posts and behaviours of the org that they seem to be trying to appeal to the younger generation.

  im wondering if they are jumping on the back of a popular young clothing brand called jack wills.. a lot of their clothes have jw logo on them.

  i wonder when searching this logo 'jw' on internet, where the search takes them?....................hmmmmmm!.

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  berrygerry

  Having elders and other pedophiles and molesters abuse the children seemed to work for quite a few decades.

  The internet era no longer allows the above to work as well as in the past.

  Hence, WTS marketers have adopted the McDonald's approach with Happy Meals and toys as the draw.

  Whether this will reduce the churn rate of children remains to be seen, but I doubt it will make any difference.

  As for Caleb and Sophia - Sophia did survive the Apocalypse, but did not fare that well in the long run.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SV9hS14_5Q
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  Oh Irony of ironies: Googling for a problem caused by the WT and getting a solution from JW.org :-(

  by BluePill2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to share this with you.. after leaving the borg i had to concentrate to solve so many personal problems (financial, child custody, etc.

  ) that it left me with a poor social life.

  i just didn't have the nerve/time to make new friends.

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  Then you realize, BP2, that you have provided additional credible backlinks with your post (I never link to mother Borg from here - and Simon, you should script up "nofollow" for Borg sites).
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  Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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  Shunning, à la WTS, is abuse of the worst kind, plain and simple.
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  Why do "Awake" vloumes only start at 1970 on computer disk?...interesting!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet watchtowers go way back to 1950's....i picked up three awake volumes 1967-1969 i was struck by the poor science {aluminium is posion}, demon articles and anti-organ transplant articles.

  also much was said about 1975 being the end of the system and "the generation.

  " it feels like fred franz was writting alot of these which now is plain embarrasing and better left un-published.. .

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  berrygerry

  A few days ago, I pointed out some of the crazy stuff from the past to my half-in/half-out child.

  The child said, "But that is so old."
  I said: "Oh, so truth has a best-before date. So when does the info in this (Current mag) become outdated "truth""?

  No reply.

  Point made.