Posts by darkspilver

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

darkspilver

WT Society's credit rating has gone to shit with Bank of America who blackballed them for defaulting on construction loan
Could you please furnish any quotes, newspaper articles or such, to back up this statement.

haha, oh dear,

ergo...

they cannot get credit with other major lenders now for construction. Which is another reason they've had to stop construction all over the world and send workers home- except of course not their upstate New York facility - that's priority where the " big boys " will live - so it's considered more important.

ergo...

WT Society's credit rating has gone to shit with Bank of America who blackballed them for defaulting on construction loan

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2017 Yearbook - Still Waiting

by berrygerry in

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t06777k65p11e53/20160521e.pdf?dl=0.

may 21, 2016. we are pleased to inform you that electronic versions of the annual items for 2017 will be made available for download on jw.org beginning in october of this year.

this includes examining the scriptures daily—2017 and the 2017 yearbook of jehovah’s witnesses.

darkspilver

FYI

Watchtower 15 August 2011, page 22

Questions From Readers: How are we to understand the figures in the annual service report?
Each year, we look forward to the service report published in the Yearbook. It is thrilling to see what Jehovah’s people as a group have accomplished in the worldwide Kingdom preaching and teaching work. But to derive the greatest benefit from the report, we need a correct understanding of the entries as well as a balanced view of the figures. Consider a few examples.
Service year
Peak publishers and average publishers
Total hours
Money spent
Memorial partakers

Link to scan

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Can YOU identify this photo (1914 Rapture?)

by AlphaOmega in

i need help identifying the source of this photo, which purports to show the watchtower crowd going up to the top of the mount of olives in 1914 awaiting the rapture.. .

i would like to show this photo to several jws along with the article in the october 8 1968 awake, which says.... true, there have been those in times past who predicted an end to the world, even announcing a specific date.

some have gathered groups of people with them and fled to the hills or withdrawn into their houses waiting for the end.yet nothing happened.

darkspilver

Thanks for bringing our attention to the unreliability of

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk

Maybe it's actually an anti-apostate website

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Tour Booking facility Via JW.ORG

by Da.Furious in

not sure is this was posted online.. visitors to the jw.org website can now book tour visits to any bethel (as long as country does not ban jws).. the link to the booking page is: .

https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/bethel-tour-reservation-tool/.

within this article there is the actual link tot he booking page: .

darkspilver

Hi Da Furious

Seems sensible to avoid crowding, long queues and disappointment when too many turn up.

Interesting that the WT is using a 'secular' website, probably the best/cheapest option rather than the hassle of doing it in-house, particularly when there are services such as www.zozi.com available

Not sure is this was posted online.

Yes

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6239152813113344/october-28-2016-re-online-tour-reservation-tool-visiting-united-states-bethel-facilities

Visitors to the JW.ORG website can now book tour visits to any bethel (as long as country does not ban JWs).

No, appears to be just the US locations.

Seems only US tours can be booked online.

? contradicting yourself - see above

The best part is the booking section on the right. Why they have add to cart option with $0.00!
Wondering if they will be charging a nominal cost for visiting - as voluntary donation pre-added

The jw.org website states

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/offices/united-states/
Please disregard any monetary references, such as “payment,” “total,” or “taxes and fees.” There is no charge for making a tour reservation.

The letter read out at congregations states

Please disregard any references to fees for services found on this secular website. As always, tours to any of our facilities are provided free of charge.

So, have you noticed any dates and times that are FULL UP already ??

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Amazon Charity

by mikeypants in

boring post below, fyi.. i was with extended family this weekend and the conversation drifted to contributions and donations.

they said amazon will donate a percentage of your purchase to a charity of choice.

i guess someone put in jdumbs and it went through.

darkspilver

Hi rebel8

Wow, nobody is interested in this? I am surprised.

Maybe because of Amazon's other issues?.....

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3139123/Amazon-pays-just-11-9m-tax-5-3bn-worth-UK-sales.html

http://europe.newsweek.com/amazon-jeff-bezos-taxes-479814?rm=eu

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The increasing WT magazine

by darkspilver in

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apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.

2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .

2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.

darkspilver

Hi canteave

Bloody hard to burn them...

Except that looks like the 'Was Life Created?' brochure and NOT a recent Watchtower/Awake magazine.

I believe the 'Was Life Created?' brochure was/is printed on differerant paper that doesn't burn so easily by itself than the magazines.

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Paperback?

by Maxee in

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has anyone seen the paperback editions of previous and recent bookstudy pubs.

i haven't seen them here in aus?.

also i recieved a email today from my brother, who too is a enquiring jw.

darkspilver

Hi Maxee

Has anyone seen the paperback editions of previous and recent bookstudy pubs. I haven't seen them here in Aus?

The Secret of Family Happiness

Also I recieved a email today from my brother, who too is a enquiring JW. He wrote that in a footnote in a book written by Raymond Franz 'Christian Freedom' that due to the abundance of old publications in order to get rid of the excess stock these publications were nominated by the faithful and discreet slave and encouraged via KM's to be used as the book study spiritual food. Has anyone read Christian Freedom? Has anyone else heard this?

No. Maybe in olden times, like last century? But I'd expect even then that the WT would have had to have printed more anyway back then when a particular book or brochure was to be used by everyone for the weekly study. I can imagine them moving the order that the books/brochures were studied to logisitically make the printing of them more efficient.

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Question for New Yorkers

by EdenOne in

quick question because of a current writing project i have in hands .... if you live on staten island, what would be the assembly hall you would attend for a circuit assembly ?.

another question: in 2014 were there still circuit assemblies?

or had it been already narrowed down to special assembly days?.

darkspilver

I'm not a New Yorker, but....

Your terminology is all wrong

They STILL have Circuit Assemblies

It was the Special Assembly Days they cancelled

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/274403/boe-letter-new-adjustments

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/275911/new-boe-letters

The WT service year starts on 1 September each year

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Moving and transferring publisher's card.

by The Fugitive in

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hi folks.

i have been a lurker here for quite some time but i have now decided to make my first post.

i am originally from somewhere on the east coast, but recently, in part to aid in the fading process, i have moved to a city somewhere west of the mississippi.

darkspilver

If someone were transfer several times through a series of congregations for say congregation A then to congregation B and to C then D etc. would congregation D be able to tell from the publisher's cards and letter of introduction that are mailed to them that the person originally came from congregation A and then mail everything back there

Your OP implied that with this second route you would not be turning up at the congregation at all - just choosing a 'random congregation'

Therefore, why would B send to C?

If B did send to C - without seeing you, seeing you a couple of times only, seeing you for a short time (ie they don't know you well enough to write a letter of introduction) - B will probably either include letter of introduction from A in letter to C and/or will let C know you originally came from A. B might even refuse to send to C and send back to A for them to send to C themselves.

based on the assumption that the person's family is there?

No assumption is made - your cards arrive at B, you don't turn up, B gets rid of your cards by posting back to A - B doesn't know you, B isn't making any assumptions, they're just getting rid of your cards from their file (of course they could telephone or email A, effectively same result) - A wonders why your cards have been returned to them.

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Moving and transferring publisher's card.

by The Fugitive in

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friends

hi folks.

i have been a lurker here for quite some time but i have now decided to make my first post.

i am originally from somewhere on the east coast, but recently, in part to aid in the fading process, i have moved to a city somewhere west of the mississippi.

darkspilver

Hi The Fugitive

Does anybody think this could work?

No, your cards will very likely be sent back to your original congregation, which will then 'red flag' it to the secretary in the original congregation who is then much more likely to, at the very least, informally check with your family, it'll not just look weird, it'll also look questionable....

Hi Ds

I believe the new arrangement is that the new secretary must request your cards from your old Cong.

Interesting

BoE letter: November 17, 2010 - "Re: Letters of introduction"

If the previous service committee knows where the publisher moved, they may take the initiative and send these items without waiting for a formal request from the new congregation.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlYzZGZU9qTF9PUE0/view