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  Kendall Kingdom Hall UK

  by darkspilver in

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  all this talk of kingdom halls.... remember what used to happen?.

  gilthwaiterigg lane kendal la9 6nt.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11f_plajek.

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  Hi Pubsinger!
  

  I thought Kendal KH was on the High Street above one of the shops. Spent some great times up there visiting mates who lived there. Thankfully most are out

  Depends how OLD you are it appears Kendal kingdom hall was built in 2006
  
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  In Germany, the Watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls

  by processor in

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  according to german april issue of our kingdom ministry, the watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls:.

  it sais that the watchtower logo - a stylised watchtower or a watchtower with a bible - is used by the watchtower society.

  thus, it should not be used by congregations or private persons, neither on kingdom halls, stationary or anything else.

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  Hi pale.emperor
  

  Kirkby Kingdom Hall in Liverpool, UK has the Watchtower Logo build into the brickwork. Different coloured bricks make the logo.

  #FAIL #FACEPALM #RUNNINGAHEADOFTHECARIOT

  ????

  Strange, I can't see it.... do you have to squint your eyes, your wait for the rain....

  https://goo.gl/maps/8mJSGs1j1H42
  

  #TOOBUSYWITHGIRLFRIENDS
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

  * he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

  he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

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  Hi smiddy

  Another lie ? , "Zions Watchtower & Tract Society was Legally incorporated in 1884,with brother Russell as president"

  The Proclaimers Book would appear to be 'clearer' on this matter
  

  Jehovah’s Witnesses—Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom, page 576, paragraph 1
  

  The following year the first of an extensive series of tracts designed to interest people in Bible truths was prepared for publication. This work quickly took on immense proportions. In order to handle it, Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society was formed on February 16, 1881, with W. H. Conley as president and C. T. Russell as secretary and treasurer. Arrangements were made for the printing to be done by commercial firms in various cities of Pennsylvania, New York, and Ohio, as well as in Britain. In 1884, Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society was legally incorporated, with C. T. Russell as president, and its charter showed that it was more than a society that would direct publishing. Its real objective was religious; it was chartered for “the dissemination of Bible Truths in various languages.”
  
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  Jehovah Witnesses sects flock to Hudson Valley Town

  by ToesUp in

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  2. current

  interesting article regarding the properties owned by jw's and other sects.. shawangunk - this ulster county town, with a ridge of quartz mountains rising 2,000 feet, is a mecca for rock climbers.

  in recent years, religious groups have also begun flocking to the mid-hudson valley municipality of 15,000 residents, putting down roots and scooping up tax breaks.. in 2015, the 29 shawangunk properties with religious non-profit status were worth $148 million, up 85 percent since 1999.. “our town is nearly 30 percent exempt,” said town tax assessor curt schoeberl.

  “in the last five or 10 years, the largest tax-exempt group’s growth is religious.

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  Interesting how the American system seems to be broken then?

  Surely the problem here is two-fold?
  

  Firstly the tax-exemption is put into place by central government - but they don't provide grants to local communities to make up for the lost income/tax

  Secondly the actual local communities are set up to be too small anyway and are therefore much more susceptible / affected financially when a tax exempt group moves in - the communites are too fragile financially due to their small size to be able to cushion the lose of money due to tax exemption.

  But maybe I just don't understand the 'problem'?

  And isn't Brooklyn NYC heading for a 'pay day' with annual property taxes on the buildings that WT has sold their? Of course the issue is that Brooklyn is a larger community so as a percentage overall it wouldn't be so significant as for the upstate communities....
  
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  November 1, 2016 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  november 1, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: using and maintaining kingdom halls.

  table of contents.

  ownership .........................................................................................pars.

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  Cant they just allow access to JW.org and nothing else - maybe put a parent filter on or something, Im not an expert but maybe they could do that.

  The problem is WT are using content management to serve up a lot of their content - so the various downloadable images, pdfs, files, videos etc as well as fonts and javascript etc are being served from other web domains.

  Also, there are legitimate reasons to access other websites at the KH - such as an online storage facility (as suggested by WT to keep schedules etc online and available to publishers 24/7) such as google drive or dropbox etc etc - and again they're likely to using other domains to serve content from
  

  Other legitimate websites would be things like the app store / google store so apps can be downloaded, updated and app content can be downloaded.

  I think the wifi password thingy is being over-thought here though -

  I think WT is basically wanting to make sure there is some kind of password in place - ie it isn't an open free-for-all access - which is fair enough.
  

  Yes some congregations will be a pain and be totally restrictive, the vast majority will password protect, but the password will effectively be an 'open-secret' amongst the publishers.
  
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  Comparing WT Library - 2011 vs. 2012

  by MeanMrMustard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a couple of years ago, i participated in a thread on this site comparing the old nwt (1984) to the new nwt (2013).

  i was able to produce a nwt mash up pdf showing the side-by-side differences between the two versions of the nwt.

  herethis site claims it will hold the file for download for a long time.

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  darkspilver

  PDF version currently on jw.org
  

  Watchtower 1 October 2011, page 21, 2nd footnote

  "Xerxes lost a fortune in his disastrous war against the Greeks, evidently before his marriage to Esther."
  

  CD ROM and wol.jw.org versions
  

  Watchtower 1 October 2011, page 21, 2nd footnote

  "Xerxes needed a vast store of funds to carry out his long-proposed but ultimately disastrous war against Greece."
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  Comparing WT Library - 2011 vs. 2012

  by MeanMrMustard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a couple of years ago, i participated in a thread on this site comparing the old nwt (1984) to the new nwt (2013).

  i was able to produce a nwt mash up pdf showing the side-by-side differences between the two versions of the nwt.

  herethis site claims it will hold the file for download for a long time.

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  Hi ab.ortega!
  

  Ther watchtower 2010: "Balsam of Gilead - The Balm that Heals"

  They removed "at the beginning" from: But it was not left unanswered. In the synagogue in Nazareth at the beginning of the year 30 C.E., Jesus read from the scroll of Isaiah, saying:

  Original individual magazine version:
  

  Watchtower 1 June 2010, page 22, paragraph 5

  "In the synagogue in Nazareth at the beginning of the year 30 C.E., Jesus read from the scroll of Isaiah, saying"
  

  
  New CD ROM version:
  

  Watchtower 1 June 2010, page 22, paragraph 5

  "In the synagogue in Nazareth in the year 30 C.E., Jesus read from the scroll of Isaiah, saying"
  
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  Comparing WT Library - 2011 vs. 2012

  by MeanMrMustard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a couple of years ago, i participated in a thread on this site comparing the old nwt (1984) to the new nwt (2013).

  i was able to produce a nwt mash up pdf showing the side-by-side differences between the two versions of the nwt.

  herethis site claims it will hold the file for download for a long time.

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  darkspilver

  Hi ab.ortega!

  The watchtower 1988: "Unmasking the serpent" paragraph 8

  2011 says: " Had it been otherwise, it would not have been a true test of Job's integrity." - Job 1:21; 2:9, 10.

  2012 says: "Thus, this became a very severe test of Job's integrity."- Job 1:21; 2:9, 10.

  
  

  Original individual magazine version:
  

  Watchtower 1 September 1988, page 10, paragraph 8, end
  

  "Had it been otherwise, it would not have been a true test of Job's integrity."
  

  Bound volume version:
  

  Watchtower 1 September 1988, page 10, paragraph 8, end

  "Thus, this became a very severe test of Job’s integrity."
  

  
  
  
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  November 1, 2016 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  november 1, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: using and maintaining kingdom halls.

  table of contents.

  ownership .........................................................................................pars.

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  I think the cleaning 'problem' has been exasperated in recent years by the disintergration of the local group arrangement - on group evening (tuesday?) there would often be the lone publisher or two who managed to remember your group's turn KH cleaning for the weekend, so it was more likely to get done - and a good turn out on f/s as we all stop early to clean the KH late morninging before lunchtime
  

  I attended many congregations that shared with another. The worst was clleaning after a meeting when another congregation would be the next attending one.
  

  For the Sunday, I think it works better to get your own 'crew/group' in early before the meeting and do the cleaning/tidy for your own congregation meeting before the meeting
  

  Of course, if you arrive early enough, before the other congregation have fully left, then all the better...
  
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  Kendall Kingdom Hall UK

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all this talk of kingdom halls.... remember what used to happen?.

  gilthwaiterigg lane kendal la9 6nt.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11f_plajek.

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  Hi snugglebunny
  

  I used to attend Carnforth KH many years ago.
  

  Best known for it's train station?.....
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTFrjVegj3M